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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 8:55:20 GMT
Well and truly stuck in the sand this one was, Saturday (31/5) evening into Sunday (1/6) late morning. ERU on scene and dealing. I believe this one did not involve a T/Op. i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/tonupkid/DSC00131.jpgImage change to link by Colin as it breaches the limits on file size set by the amins (which can be found by clicking here).
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Post by c5 on Jun 2, 2008 9:03:53 GMT
I take it that Thursday night's one on the deck was No. 1?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 9:08:25 GMT
I take it that Thursday night's one on the deck was No. 1? Yep. This one was at the east end (Acton) of the depot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 9:11:35 GMT
That makes at least 4 that I know of this year.
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Post by Oracle on Jun 2, 2008 12:14:03 GMT
Is the sand drag 'straight ahead' used for depot reversing? Otherwise is it a safety net should a unit's brakes fail on the grade?
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Post by chrish on Jun 2, 2008 13:17:00 GMT
Is the sand drag 'straight ahead' used for depot reversing? Otherwise is it a safety net should a unit's brakes fail on the grade? Yes, only depot shunters use that spur. It requires the shunter to "plunge" so that the depot shunt signal can be cleared to the spur, else you get the route out on to the main. I would hope that even if brakes failed on the grade, the train would be tripped on the shunt trainstop and stop prior to meeting the sand drag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 13:23:49 GMT
Is the sand drag 'straight ahead' used for depot reversing? Otherwise is it a safety net should a unit's brakes fail on the grade? In general, sand drags (or the small section of track leading upto it) are, in some locations, used to accomodate long sets (ie, engineers loco's), but not sure if its used for that purpose at this specific location. But in this example, use of the sand drag was most certainly unintentional, and is thus pretty much as the latter part of your post suggests!
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Post by c5 on Jun 2, 2008 14:13:45 GMT
Is the sand drag 'straight ahead' used for depot reversing? Otherwise is it a safety net should a unit's brakes fail on the grade? Yes, only depot shunters use that spur. It requires the shunter to "plunge" so that the depot shunt signal can be cleared to the spur, else you get the route out on to the main. I would hope that even if brakes failed on the grade, the train would be tripped on the shunt trainstop and stop prior to meeting the sand drag. If the train has run away due to the parking brake/handbrake having failed/been released, there may not be any air to apply the tripcock brake! Also, being a move within "depot limits" the tripcock needn't be cut in (unless the local depot rules require it) I was slightly suprised when one was stabled there on Thursday night! (The LU train op didnt stop in the correct position and it took about 15 minutes for the shunter to move it slightly more uphill!) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Oracle on Jun 2, 2008 17:01:03 GMT
I have only ever seen one photo of a D Stock using the 'straight ahead' for reversing on the slope.
I have recanted before about our never-to-be repeated trip into the sand drag at the Hammersmith Siding (opposite end from Barons Court Siding...oh well, the BC end of the siding), in an 8-car 1967 Stock train (the 'Auto Tube Rambler'). This was because the rear car was fouling the points so the train could not reverse WB>EB via Hammersmith Siding.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 17:25:05 GMT
Luckily, I had four trips to Ealing Broadway yesterday, so I was able to see the ERU working on it and the aftermath once it had been moved down to the shunt neck at the east end of the depot in the early afternoon. The train must have hit the sand drag with quite a bit of force - yesterday afternoon you could clearly see how far it had travelled through the sand.
The only obvious damage to the train was the coupler, which seemed to have been knocked way out of alignment both horizontally and vertically.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2008 8:28:27 GMT
Do I gather we've had yet another derailment in the depot or is it knock-on from this?
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Post by c5 on Jun 3, 2008 10:13:44 GMT
Do I gather we've had yet another derailment in the depot or is it knock-on from this? Acton Town sidings this time!
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Post by happybunny on Jun 3, 2008 10:33:56 GMT
A Picc train? Anyone know what happened ?
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Post by c5 on Jun 3, 2008 10:41:07 GMT
A Picc train? Anyone know what happened ? The train went *DONK* ;D ;D
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Post by maxtube on Jun 3, 2008 14:16:04 GMT
I can't remember where, but on one website I saw a picture of Ealing Common Depot, and one D stock had hit the side of another on some points. There was also a photo of a DM that had completely smashed into the depot!!!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 5, 2008 16:47:40 GMT
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Post by 21146 on Jun 5, 2008 17:01:36 GMT
I have only ever seen one photo of a D Stock using the 'straight ahead' for reversing on the slope. I have recanted before about our never-to-be repeated trip into the sand drag at the Hammersmith Siding (opposite end from Barons Court Siding...oh well, the BC end of the siding), in an 8-car 1967 Stock train (the 'Auto Tube Rambler'). This was because the rear car was fouling the points so the train could not reverse WB>EB via Hammersmith Siding. I remember it well!
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 5, 2008 19:03:22 GMT
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Post by metman on Jun 5, 2008 20:15:40 GMT
Bloody hell both those photos are scenes of carnage! All trains repair I take it!
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Post by 21146 on Jun 5, 2008 20:29:45 GMT
That's Richmond lower concourse mate! Even scarier!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 6, 2008 17:10:14 GMT
Bloody hell both those photos are scenes of carnage! All trains repair I take it! Yes, all were repaired. 7091 bumping into 17514 in Ealing Common Depot & 7100 (now named "Silver Streak II") embedded into Richmond concourse!
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