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Post by chris on Dec 4, 2007 11:42:15 GMT
Hi guys!
Probably going to sound more like a customer more than an enthusiast, but what the heck?! I need to get from Southampton Central - Wembley Arena (to see the fabulous Kings of Leon). What is the best way to do this? Is it SWT to Waterloo and tube to Wembley, or SWT to Wimbledon and tube thereafter. I've spent ages pouring over the various tube and SWT websites, but to be honest i cant make head or tail of! There's open returns, cheap day returns, super off peak returns, super off peak with travel card, super off peak with travel card and gourmet lunch etc etc. (Ok, i made the last one up...)
I'm going next wednesday leaving Southampton at about 1500 and leaving Wembely at about 2300.
SA hats on folks and all help greatly appreciated! (I tried asking the people at Southampton station but they were slightly less than useful!)
Thanks alot
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Post by Oracle on Dec 4, 2007 12:07:42 GMT
I personally would go to Waterloo with that super off-peak CDR: you can split tickets at Basingstoke in theory if your train stops at Basingstoke, or Woking, and thus save further. I wouldn't bother for the effort and get a one-day off-peak Travelcard from Southampton, change to the Jubilee, get off at Wembley and walk. On the way back you have until the last train to get from Waterloo..0105 or the earlier 0005 MX? Journeys started the day before are covered by the ticket.
The cheapest way to get to London is probably via Southern, using their various cheapo offers, as it is after 1030, but the Victoria - Southampton trains finish earlish SuX and don't run at all SuO. I think unless they have cancelled them trhe cheapest ticket is £10, or the next one up £13.50. To that you have to add the LU element.
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Post by cetacean on Dec 4, 2007 12:24:28 GMT
The peak restrictions don't affect your journey at all, so you want a super off-peak day return. I'd go for the "with travelcard" option which means you can do what you like with tubes and buses once you're in London, and it's only £3.30 more than the without option (£31.30 vs £28.00), which is cheaper than any other way to do that part of the journey.
I'd also get a Young Person's Railcard if you don't have one, which gives you a third off.
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Post by cetacean on Dec 4, 2007 12:29:37 GMT
And to explain a bit further, an "Open" return is valid on any train, a "Cheap Day Return" is valid on all trains except those of interest to people commuting into London (ie morning inbound, early evening outbound), and a super off-peak return is the same, except the periods it isn't valid are longer. The nationalrail.co.uk Journey Planner can show you which if you click the "More Fares" option, but as I say, both your trips are very much off peak.
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Post by Tomcakes on Dec 4, 2007 13:09:24 GMT
If you book enough in advance, you may be able to get a dirt cheap AP ticket - but they're only valid on SPECIFIC trains, so if you turn up really early you can't get on the one before, and if you miss it your ticket is an expensive bookmark.
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Post by Oracle on Dec 4, 2007 13:20:35 GMT
I agree..get the YP Rail Card if you qualify.
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Post by chris on Dec 4, 2007 21:11:50 GMT
I agree..get the YP Rail Card if you qualify. Nat West gave me one with my student account. I'll be getting one a year for the next 5 years too! Thanks for your help guys. I think the best bet is the super off peak CDR with the travel card. All in all there only seems to be a few quid in it so i wont loose much if it isnt the best deal. You can take the SA hats off and go have a nice cup of tea! (or beer, if that's your tipple!)
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Post by Oracle on Dec 4, 2007 21:55:00 GMT
I have been trying to work out the cheapest way to get to Town for years! In fact the best miles per £ was from my then local station, Swanwick, which you could go:
SWANWICK-CENTRAL-WATERLOO SWANWICK-FAREHAM-WATERLOO SWANWICK-FRATTON-WATERLOO/VICTORIA SWANWICK-HAVANT-WATERLOO SWANWICK-VICTORIA VIA HOVE SWANWICK-LONDON BRIDGE (ONE PER DAY)
which was in the case of via Central, an extra 1/2 hour of train for the same price as direct from Central! I used to prefer however to go via the Victoria train to Havant, thence by fast Pompey to Waterloo and buy a nice Danish Pasty and coffee from the friendly buffet staff. I gather that this anomaly as far as Porchester still applies.
However, getting back to today, on Southern from Central - Victoria, the cheapest is the Day Save unlimited travel at £10 plus £1 for each accompanied child, or the Pricebuster at £13 is impressive value.
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Post by suncloud on Dec 5, 2007 8:03:39 GMT
The Off Peak travelcard option is really handy in most cases. However they don't seem to like selling them at the London end on the day of travel. This meant when I was commuting to Guildford for a few days earlier this year I'd have to buy my ticket on my way through Waterloo on the way home of an evening.
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Post by cetacean on Dec 5, 2007 8:58:06 GMT
The Off Peak travelcard option is really handy in most cases. However they don't seem to like selling them at the London end on the day of travel. This meant when I was commuting to Guildford for a few days earlier this year I'd have to buy my ticket on my way through Waterloo on the way home of an evening. I may have misunderstood, but Travelcard tickets to places outside London don't exist. You're meant to buy a Travelcard then a separate "Boundary Zone 2" (if you had a Zones 1-2 Travelcard) to Guildford extension ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2007 16:08:10 GMT
I agree..get the YP Rail Card if you qualify. And if you can't get a YP railcard you can still get the not often told about Network Railcard, a lovely throwback to the Network Southeast days that's still here...
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Post by Chris M on Dec 7, 2007 16:32:39 GMT
Making an equivalent available to people outside the SE of England would make train travel more attractive to a lot of people.
I vaguely remember hearing about someone/group that were planning to sue the people responsible for railcards (ATOC?) for age discrimination. This was based on the Young Persons rail cards being available for anyone under 25, regardless of whether they were in education, unemployed, or in employment. The theory being that as it was not based on being an adult/child, nor based on being in education, then it was illegal discrimination against people older than 25. This was several months, if not a couple of years ago, but I've not heard anything since.
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