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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2008 22:03:23 GMT
*blush* .... sorry I misunderstood.. I thought the Wimbo service, was just a 10 min C stock to Edgware Rd service.. both times when I was at HSK I was the only train in either of the bay road's. so I assumed this was the case The C stocks were supplemented by a D stock every 20 minutes between High St Ken and Wimbledon (and by my D stock which should have gone to Richmond but got so late they sent it to Parsons Green on my last trip!)
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Post by trainopd78 on May 26, 2008 23:02:28 GMT
Considering you should have been in front of me and I passed you at South Ken ish, I wondered what they were going to do with you? ;D Sorry, I didn't mean to commandeer your train earlier and make it mine, but my "suggestion" to the controller probably saved 10 mins and stopped a 30 min headway to Embankment!
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Post by happybunny on May 27, 2008 6:50:50 GMT
I am sure they could have provided a 5 minute Embankment service, if they had 2 tipper-outers on the platform there. That way they could have run 6tph Richmond-Embankment, 6thp (or even 3) Wimbo-Embankment, 6tph Ealing-HSK, 4 tph Oly-HSK, 6tph Wimbo-ERD
That would have been better
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 27, 2008 8:31:33 GMT
I thought 'something' was going on in the Acton Town area as i had my Connect radio tuned listening to the Piccadilly Line. They were sending 'urgent' messages to trains in the Acton area asking them to 'stay there!' and approach with caution' - nothing over the District radio though!
Luckily i had (some) wits about me (after 5 visits to Ealing already!) to notice that both WL12A and WL12B had returned to danger in front of me when approaching Acton WB! I just managed to stop in time, on very wet rails. Timed 12.41 .
Upon observing, all the signals i could see started 'bobbing', then went out, then came back 'bobbing' and finally stayed constantly at danger.
After discussions with the DR Controller and the Earl's Court signalman, i was told to remain where i was.
Several calls to colleagues at Acton revealed that nothing was showing on TrackerNet for the area.
I was eventually called back to suggest i count up the passengers on the train while proceeding to the rear cab to prepare for 'wrong roading' back to Chiswick Park. The following train was already at the "X" signal behind and was in the course of being WDM'd back to Chiswick.
Just as all this was about to be done with my train the "all clear" was given and i proceeded normally WB at 13.29 !
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2008 15:30:57 GMT
the signal failure at HSK wasnt really a signal failure but the signal op not realising that the wrong programme roll had be loaded onto one of the machines then trying to set up a conflicting move once realised they pulled up on the route and waited for the auto release to kick in then wait 2mins for it to work after that everything was ok
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Post by c5 on May 27, 2008 15:33:10 GMT
the signal failure at HSK wasnt really a signal failure but the signal op not realising that the wrong programme roll had be loaded onto one of the machines then trying to set up a conflicting move once realised they pulled up on the route and waited for the auto release to kick in then wait 2mins for it to work after that everything was ok I think they knew that the wrong roll was there. Metronet never seem to get the correct rolls for special workings or rewind/forward them for Bank Holidays.... It then takes them many hours to fix it.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2008 15:48:29 GMT
when LUL punch the rolls for special workings some of the rolls do not have the rewind hole in them but we do not find out until after its happened and we start getting jobs in about it
we usually only get them on the wednesday before the friday night / sat morning when they have to be loaded and yes mistakes do sometimes happen especially with larger sites like HSK
programme machines do not stop the service and are seemed by some as non important as the signaller still has FCFS and button its a tough life aint it actually doing the job you get paid to do instead of letting a machine do it for you ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2008 17:53:00 GMT
DL has crashed again tonight by the sound of it. She took the train to Romford instead and paid an arm and a leg. I'm using it tomorrow, so there's no chance of it working. If I was a driver, I would have smashed all the windows by now. Drivers must get more of this than passengers on the basis they're on the damn things more. The blood pressure, the blood pressure!!
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Post by happybunny on May 27, 2008 17:57:20 GMT
If I was a driver, I would have smashed all the windows by now. But then we would probably get the sack, if found out... and anyway its not all bad for drivers, quite often we get out of work or finish early (trains cancelled, early stablers stabling early or not coming out at all etc.) The Upney/Barking failure has been going on for hours, maybe since round about 2.30pm
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Post by Colin on May 27, 2008 21:20:40 GMT
I am sure they could have provided a 5 minute Embankment service, if they had 2 tipper-outers on the platform there. That way they could have run 6tph Richmond-Embankment, 6thp (or even 3) Wimbo-Embankment, 6tph Ealing-HSK, 4 tph Oly-HSK, 6tph Wimbo-ERD That would have been better Maybe - but you have to remember that all the D stock's were supplied by Parsons Green and Ealing Common only - would there be enough trains to operate your proposal? Then there are the logistics of supplying enough drivers - you'd most likely need drivers to be taxi'd from the east end.... DL has crashed again tonight by the sound of it. Yep - signal main lost (no power to the signals in laymens terms) Dagenham to Upney, both roads. The Upney/Barking failure has been going on for hours, maybe since round about 2.30pm 1405 to be precise - that was the time I arrived at Upney. By 1410 I was authorised past the starter by the SS and, after applying the rule at every signal up to Dagenham, eventually reached Upminster at 1510 So it's still going on now?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2008 0:21:39 GMT
Problem remained in until close of traffic, though just 4 signals remaining affected. Two eastbound and two westbound. (comprising two Auto's, A semi and an "X" signal).
I was short tripped to Olympia ! Yay ! Don't get there very often !! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Tubeboy on May 28, 2008 3:54:40 GMT
Just had word from the NOC, that the District will be suspended from Barking -Upminster from start of traffic due to engineering work at Upney.
Edit...Service resumed at 0524 to minor delays.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2008 7:22:11 GMT
Just had word from the NOC, that the District will be suspended from Barking -Upminster from start of traffic due to engineering work at Upney. Edit...Service resumed at 0524 to minor delays. First 2 westbound trains delayed, nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 10:36:41 GMT
I said I'd have trouble yesterday. Coming home from Embankment last night around 10:00, the service was suspended and the station shut. Not sure what happened, but think somebody was on the track further west. Had to walk to Holborn and get home that way. Wonder if I'll be able to get to the Emirates tomorrow night !
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Post by District Dave on May 29, 2008 14:28:29 GMT
Yes - they had someone go walkabout from Temple (drunk - went down for 'physical relief') and then decided to not bother waiting for a train and started to walk to Embankment.
Traction Current was discharged and a track search ensued; he was found hiding in a bolt hole.
BTP welcomed him on arrivial at Embankment!
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Post by SE13 on May 29, 2008 16:16:24 GMT
BTP welcomed him on arrivial at Embankment! Just as a matter of interest, what is the punishment for those convicted as a result of this sort of thing?
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Post by c5 on May 29, 2008 17:31:08 GMT
BTP welcomed him on arrivial at Embankment! Just as a matter of interest, what is the punishment for those convicted as a result of this sort of thing? I was wondering that! A few months ago someone who was drunk ended up under a train, when they were removed they were arrested! I guess they could be done for tresspass, or maybe even in exceptional circumstances, endangering the railway. Of course it is up to the CPS to decide whether it is worth pursuing through the criminal courts. Now, I wonder if LUL (or the InfraCo) try to recoup any costs back through the courts? These sorts of incidents can end up costing many thousands of pounds - staff off sick if shaken up, overtime costs, taxi costs for staff and passengers, station closures, late running of last trains can mean less or no overnight work is done (very costly), trains that fleet depots have requested back stable elsewhere meaning that they can change maintenance work or end up being cancelled.
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Post by solidbond on May 29, 2008 19:53:52 GMT
When I had my one-under, many years ago, I was told that there was a copper waiting at the blokes bed in hospital, so that if he woke up, he could be cautioned that he may be prosecuted for trespass. It was explained that this was more to do with preventing the bloke from making a claim against LU, than actually taking action against him.
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Post by johnb on May 30, 2008 11:53:53 GMT
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