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Post by programmes1 on Apr 27, 2008 15:49:30 GMT
Having seen the thread on level crossings and mention of a brown lever, I knew there was a lever for the crossing but not that it was Brown. What are the colours used around the system the ones that I am aware of Red-signal Black-points Yellow-release Blue-king Black/Red-slot Red/Yellow-control White-spare
I know that there was Green for TD at the east end of the Piccadilly I have been told that there is a Blue in one of the Acton IMR's is this true? and are there any more?
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Post by c5 on Apr 27, 2008 16:18:03 GMT
The blue at Acton is a slot (I think) for the 2 IMRs. From memory it's 94.
You also get black and red, route levers like on the frame at Harrow.
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Post by JR 15secs on Apr 27, 2008 17:37:44 GMT
The blue lever mentioned is 11's in the east IMR, 94's the slot is in the west IMR don't know what 11's is for though sorry.
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Post by Tom on Apr 28, 2008 7:54:53 GMT
11 (light blue) Switchlock - now secured normal IIRC.
Also black/white for the Tripcock Tester at Finsbury Park.
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Post by JR 15secs on Apr 28, 2008 9:53:03 GMT
Well looking up a list of colours for IMRs
LEVER COLOUR Signal RED Point BLACK Release YELLOW King BLUE Control YELLOW/RED STRIPE Route RED/BLACK/RED Slot RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK Switch Lock YELLOW/RED STRIPE Spare WHITE
So it looks like Acton/Neasden/Finsbury are not official then?
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Post by programmes1 on Apr 28, 2008 13:36:57 GMT
Thanks guys for all the replys loads of info to sort out.
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Post by Tom on Apr 30, 2008 20:50:36 GMT
Well looking up a list of colours for IMRs LEVER COLOUR Signal RED Point BLACK Release YELLOW King BLUE Control YELLOW/RED STRIPE Route RED/BLACK/RED Slot RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK Switch Lock YELLOW/RED STRIPE Spare WHITE So it looks like Acton/Neasden/Finsbury are not official then? Depends on the document used as the reference and if it had been updated - as well as the whim of the locking fitter who built the frame concerned! ;D
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Post by railtechnician on May 1, 2008 19:22:57 GMT
The blue lever mentioned is 11's in the east IMR, 94's the slot is in the west IMR don't know what 11's is for though sorry. From memory 11's is not blue but blue with black rings and as I recall the lever does nothing because it is plated but there are still circuits over one or two contacts as I discovered one morning when frame testing after contact cleaning. I can't recall what the nature of the resulting failure was but it was due to a light contact on 11s lever. 11s may once have been associated with the former single slip layout, in fact the points are still laid out as a single slip on the ground although controlled as 41 & 42 scissors crossovers. Arnos Grove has a red & black lever which I recall being a route lever.
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Post by mrfs42 on May 1, 2008 20:29:56 GMT
Doesn't Arnos have two route levers - 25 and 36?
Looking at the peril for putting Programme Machines in at Acton (26/1965) 11 was the switchlock for Acton Works - which according to the diagram was for hand worked points 'D' which combined and led towards spring points 'B' and disc WL4 which would either route towards Siding 24 or over 42 crossover onto the WB local.
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Post by railtechnician on May 2, 2008 8:04:50 GMT
Doesn't Arnos have two route levers - 25 and 36? Yes it probably does but I last worked there several years ago and I can't recall all the 36 levers now! It's one thing working on the railway day in day out but when one covered the whole combine in several disciplines over decades it is amazing how much one forgets once retired. It is true to say that if you don't use it you lose it! One of the joys of this forum is keeping the dying grey cells alive a little longer. Quite possibly but the layout was rearranged long before I got to maintain signalling in the area. It is of course points 41A and 42A that are physically a single slip layout. When I last worked the area circa 2003/4 we had the track fuses permanently removed from 'Z' track such that trains could not be routed to 24 road without a lineman, due to rusty rails. I'm sure the switchlocks at the Picc east end IMRs have red & yellow levers and I really can't now recall the colour of 9s at Boston Manor which was part of 11&12 switchlocks circuitry. I last worked there in 2001.
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Post by Tom on May 5, 2008 22:14:55 GMT
Just to confuse the switchlock issue - 21's at West Ken have black levers!
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Post by mrfs42 on May 5, 2008 23:32:57 GMT
Just to confuse the switchlock issue - 21's at West Ken have black levers! Could that be because the switchlock works in conjunction with handworked points 1 A/B as you can go either to Olympia or West Ken (depending on the lie of 21 or 22 points)?
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Post by JR 15secs on May 6, 2008 12:03:26 GMT
The blue lever mentioned is 11's in the east IMR, 94's the slot is in the west IMR don't know what 11's is for though sorry. From memory 11's is not blue but blue with black rings and as I recall the lever does nothing because it is plated but there are still circuits over one or two contacts as I discovered one morning when frame testing after contact cleaning. I can't recall what the nature of the resulting failure was but it was due to a light contact on 11s lever. 11s may once have been associated with the former single slip layout, in fact the points are still laid out as a single slip on the ground although controlled as 41 & 42 scissors crossovers. Arnos Grove has a red & black lever which I recall being a route lever. Brian you have an ecellent memory I took a look this morning and yes there are black rings on blue also noticed the extended hours equipment and the fact that S5 PM has gone.
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Post by JR 15secs on May 6, 2008 12:09:04 GMT
Well looking up a list of colours for IMRs LEVER COLOUR Signal RED Point BLACK Release YELLOW King BLUE Control YELLOW/RED STRIPE Route RED/BLACK/RED Slot RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK Switch Lock YELLOW/RED STRIPE Spare WHITE So it looks like Acton/Neasden/Finsbury are not official then? Depends on the document used as the reference and if it had been updated - as well as the whim of the locking fitter who built the frame concerned! ;D Tom yes finally found mention of brown but as Brian said Blue with black rings not on any list so is it something the locking fitter would have done and the colour has just been carried on?
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Post by Tom on May 6, 2008 22:01:08 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me.
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