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Post by ducatisti on Apr 16, 2008 11:59:14 GMT
I'm not sure how much of a goer this is, but:
the key problem for future runs is the lack of ATO kit and lack of places to hide it. Presumably this will get worse as the various lines get their own ATO kit.
Would it be possible to convert a redundant car into an ATO mule? Take out the seats, and fill with any/all gubbins that is needed. Obviously it would spoil the photos from one end, but you'd have enough space to put all the kit needed and not need to spoil the interiors of the preserved trains.
It would also "future-proof" the issue as you would only need to upgrade one set of ATO kit for the entire musuem collection.
I am assuming that if trains can run on coded manual on weekends, then the requiremements are for the system to "see" the train, and to communicate signalling information.
One thing I haven't figured out is how you'd deal with running round or having a driving position in there.
Is there is a rule against running tube-profile stock and SSL stock together?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 22:20:05 GMT
In the tube tunnels, yes.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2008 10:47:01 GMT
The new ATO signalling may allow for unequipped trains to run on the lines using colour light signals, but at a further distance behind the train in front.
On the Paris metro the old Sprague train has even run (in manual) on the driverless Line 14.
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Post by ducatisti on Apr 22, 2008 15:52:15 GMT
I thought the problem was that they didn't have signals and were moving to moving block and the like.
I could be worng obviously
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2008 20:39:39 GMT
Is there is a rule against running tube-profile stock and SSL stock together? They can both run on the same track, if that's what you mean. This happens all the time between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge, for example. What you certainly cannot do is couple together tube stock and surface stock to form a train - the floors, and therefore the couplers, are at completely different heights. |
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Post by ducatisti on Apr 23, 2008 9:07:13 GMT
I assume battery locos are a special case then? Is it that all pw stock is tube-level couplers or buffers and conventional couplings?
Oh well, so you'd need a SSL and a tube mule then, cuts down on utility then
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2008 10:38:02 GMT
I thought the problem was that they didn't have signals and were moving to moving block and the like. I could be worng obviously Most modern ATO systems also have a fall back fixed block system. |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 23, 2008 16:32:43 GMT
I assume battery locos are a special case then? Is it that all pw stock is tube-level couplers or buffers and conventional couplings? Oh well, so you'd need a SSL and a tube mule then, cuts down on utility then Either that or a vehicle with dual height couplings. |
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Post by c5 on Apr 23, 2008 17:40:01 GMT
I assume battery locos are a special case then? Is it that all pw stock is tube-level couplers or buffers and conventional couplings? Oh well, so you'd need a SSL and a tube mule then, cuts down on utility then Either that or a vehicle with dual height couplings. The brake vans used after the bombings which were quickly put back into service and have now been tarted up for any future use. |
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Post by ducatisti on Apr 24, 2008 11:50:40 GMT
sorry, did those vans have dual couplings?
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 25, 2008 0:00:33 GMT
sorry, did those vans have dual couplings? AIUI [1] Yes, for dual height, but no for 'dutch ovens', merely a 'gentlemans' brake (vacuum and hand). [1] As I Understand It. |
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Post by metman on Apr 25, 2008 0:09:51 GMT
Ha ha ha! I don't think this idea is a starter!
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