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Post by Tom on Sept 8, 2005 21:33:04 GMT
OK, the Norwegians have had their moment, now we'll let the Swedes have a go... ;D This site has a number of Videos from Line 1 in Stockholm at sailormoon.se/index2.php?page=videosI have to admit the Hagsätra clip makes me want a holiday, even though I normally only cover that part of the line in the dark. Admins/Mods: please move to 'International' if you feel it's more appropriate there.
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Post by igelkotten on Sept 10, 2005 11:36:58 GMT
Or scots, as the case may be regarding the owner of the site where the files are hosted.
Anyhow, the Hagsätra video is perhaps of some interest to people here, since it shows quite clearly a few things about Stockholm metro operations:
-Very few signals, as compared to LU.
-Signals show the routes set up for the train. When entering Hagsätra at the end of the clip, take a look at the signals. The first signal, protecting the points from platform two to the northbound running track, show one green -clear. The second signal head, a bit further down, show two greens, which means that the points are in reverse position, and the route is set into platform one.
- Nice little ATP beeps here and there, warning signals that you are just at the speed limit and the ATP will shortly enforce a service brake application if the speed isn't reduced. Do note how the speed falls, accompanied by beeps, first while approaching the station with a 50 km/h speed limit through the first set of points, then followed by a 40 km/h limit entering platform one.
When entering the platform, the speed limit falls off rather sharply, and about two thirds down the platform, it falls to 11 km/h and the train enters a "drawing-up mode", allowing it to approach the fixed red lights at the bufferstops seen at the very end of the clip.
The automatic announcer says "Nästa Hagsätra. Slutstation för tåget. Avstigning för samtliga trafikanter.", which translates as "Next: Hagsätra. Terminal station for this train. All passengers alight."
One, and one other nice little thing: As you can notice, the line curves a lot on it's way to Hagsätra. In fact, it curves enough for us to be travelling compass north whilst heading timetable south. The train in this clip is heading south, on the southbound track.
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Post by igelkotten on Sept 11, 2005 0:11:46 GMT
Oh, and Tom: What happened to the videos you shot here the last time?
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Post by Tom on Sept 11, 2005 12:39:48 GMT
They're sitting on my laptop - unfortunately the .3gp format isn't great and can only be played using QuickTime. Perhaps I'll have to look at getting a video camera...
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Post by igelkotten on Sept 11, 2005 22:58:21 GMT
There are several other media players available that can play that format. Likewise, there are also several interesting programs for converting .3gp files to other, more usable file formats, such as .avi.
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Post by Tom on Sept 12, 2005 15:22:20 GMT
There are several other media players available that can play that format. Likewise, there are also several interesting programs for converting .3gp files to other, more usable file formats, such as .avi. Hmmm.... must investigate further. Or buy a video camera.
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Post by q8 on Oct 10, 2005 11:30:47 GMT
That's the first time I realised the Swedish trains ran on the left like ours do. I know it's probably a legacy of when Swedens rule of the road was left hand also. (Changed over in the 60's IIRC)
As question how many other countries have left hand rail running? I know France does and Japan, and most of the commonwealth also but how far are they outnumbered by RH running countries?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2005 14:06:03 GMT
As question how many other countries have left hand rail running? I know France does and Japan, and most of the commonwealth also but how far are they outnumbered by RH running countries? Italy,Switzerland and virtually everywhere in the far east has left hand rail running. I think it goes back to the same reason why most countries use standard gauge, everyone basically copied the British system.
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Post by Tom on Oct 10, 2005 18:17:28 GMT
(Changed over in the 60's IIRC) 1967.
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Post by igelkotten on Oct 11, 2005 13:22:31 GMT
Do note that Swedish mainline railways have no technical reason for running on one side or the other. Operationally, they usually keep on the left, just for convenience's sake, as well as making life easier for passengers, but technically, all track is fully biderectionally signalled and can be used by any train going in any direction. It is not like on british mainlines, where you almost seems to have a track for each train, with the "Down slow electric suburban goods line" and similar stuff Here in the Metro, our old signalling system is "handed", for left-hand running, but the new ATP system is bidirectional. Of course, in order to not create an operational mess, we tend to run on the left hand side, too, but a walk on the wild side every now and then can always liven things up.
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