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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 20:08:59 GMT
Akin to Oxo C when the Vic Line went in?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 16:21:02 GMT
The increased length of the train would cause an approx 2% decrease in headway. However, the extra car would add approx 17% extra capacity to the train. Circles are rarely leave passengers standing, so capacity levels are not a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2007 7:49:40 GMT
The increased length of the train would cause an approx 2% decrease in headway. However, the extra car would add approx 17% extra capacity to the train. Circles are rarely leave passengers standing, so capacity levels are not a problem. True, but the 7th car will give each passenger up to 17% more space (depending on internal car layout), to keep within EU cattle transportation regulations.
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Post by dave1 on Sept 21, 2007 13:47:27 GMT
Is there any update on the stabling issues?
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Post by prjb on Oct 3, 2007 21:42:31 GMT
Surely having longer trains on the SSR will extend the gap between trains - longer trains take longer to leave the station and let the next train in. 'S' Stock have 100% motored axles, so getting away from a standing start will not be a problem! Also the new signalling system coupled with ATO will speed things up substantially.
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Post by prjb on Oct 3, 2007 21:44:13 GMT
I would have thought that Baker Street would be more of a priority than Bayswater in platform extending, but according to that site which lists all the C&H works needed for the project, no work is listed for Baker Street. Apparently they are going to dig the road junction up and put it on a platform, so it can still be used while they extend the platforms Yes they are going to create a 'box' west of the headwall in which to work in whilst trains continue to run.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 2:10:09 GMT
I hope the platform is clad in materials similar in colour and texture to the existing platform walls - Baker Street C&H is a unique station that deserves to keep its heritage feel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 9:28:33 GMT
I hope the platform is clad in materials similar in colour and texture to the existing platform walls - Baker Street C&H is a unique station that deserves to keep its heritage feel. I hope someone takes some before and after photos!
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Post by prjb on Oct 4, 2007 21:07:39 GMT
It's not my area but I am certain the work will be to the same finish as the current style. It wouldbe criminal if it were not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 21:09:52 GMT
These platforms also have a rather unique smell to them too. I wonder if they'll overcome the seepage problem at the EDG Rd ends... ?
Also, I think theres gonna be some fun with that gradient!
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Post by citysig on Oct 8, 2007 13:02:21 GMT
It's not my area but I am certain the work will be to the same finish as the current style. It wouldbe criminal if it were not. Let's hope that's the finish first achieved in the 1860s and not the damp, smelly, mouldy finish that we have now, as referred to above - that would be criminal and worthy of a visit by those Rogue Trader types off the telly.
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Post by metman on Oct 24, 2007 21:34:54 GMT
Arn't Baker St. platforms 5&6 listed-so work would need to be of a sensative nature. The 7 car circle trains are a great idea! The C stock has 24 double doors per platform side, but the 7 car S stock will have 21 (wider) double door sides-and will fill more platform space.
Stabling is going to be a bit of a problem but careful remodelling should help. The Met sections should be ok as the S8 trains will be a similar length to the A stock. Farringdon could be modified to use part of the old Thameslink formation to Moorgate, using it as extra platform space or stabbling. What is the state of platform 3 at Liverpool St?
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Post by prjb on Oct 28, 2007 22:40:33 GMT
S8's are longer than 'A' Stock, they won't fit in Wembley Park sidings as an example. Currently there are no plans to reinstate Liverpool St bay road.
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Post by metman on Oct 28, 2007 22:58:07 GMT
Longer! The usual fun at Gt Portland St/Euston Sq/Barbican then!
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Post by prjb on Nov 2, 2007 21:56:03 GMT
No, not at all. The door systems on 'S' will be able to determine location and automatically inhibit opening on the relevant doors (Selective Door Opening).
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Post by towerman on Apr 11, 2008 18:20:09 GMT
Sorry to dig this up again but a thought struck me today,as practically all Transplant work has moved to Ruislip,can't Lillie Bridge Depot be made into a stabling sdgs for S stock?
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Post by Oracle on Apr 11, 2008 19:48:27 GMT
I do query whether it would be secure and what about protection from natural as well as undesirable elements?
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Post by towerman on Apr 11, 2008 20:03:04 GMT
Last time I was at Ashfield House the security was similar to a normal depot,fencing and fob operated turnstiles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 23:30:47 GMT
Are surface stock OK gauge wise. Genuine question as I've never seen the depot ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2008 1:39:09 GMT
It was originally a District depot, built back in 1871 after the extensions to Hammersmith and West Brompton. The shutters for the depot buildings (built to the same style as Ealing Common) certainly appear to be big enough to handle surface stock gauge.
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 12, 2008 19:01:52 GMT
Stabling S stock at Lillie Bridge would be a good idea, because it's near to the Circle and Earl's Court.
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Post by prjb on Apr 12, 2008 21:21:23 GMT
Never say never. Whilst this isn't really my area, I know that Lillie Bridge is being looked at for various purposes including stabling.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2008 21:59:08 GMT
Never say never. Whilst this isn't really my area, I know that Lillie Bridge is being looked at for various purposes including stabling. Such as selling it for housing?
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Post by prjb on Apr 12, 2008 22:44:41 GMT
You old cynic you! ;D
The land is probably worth quite a bit though. I know that our learning and development department (adjacent in Ashfield House) have been looking at some of the buildings for possible expansion of training facilities (simulators etc.).
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Post by Ben on May 29, 2008 8:59:10 GMT
This is probably a silly question but are the sites of any of the former goods yards in the Kensington area still available? Looking at Joe Browns atlas West Kinsington Good & Coal, and High Street Kensington Goods & Coal both seem ideal sites (W K adjacent to Lillie Bridge and H S K just south of the station)?
Aside from that whats the current state of play?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 29, 2008 17:35:12 GMT
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Post by c5 on Jun 5, 2008 10:02:17 GMT
Also being looked at now are the LMR tunnels to Moorgate and sidings at South Kensington.
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Post by metman on Jun 5, 2008 18:09:25 GMT
I would certainly use them!
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Post by prjb on Jun 7, 2008 22:47:18 GMT
Also being looked at now are the LMR tunnels to Moorgate and sidings at South Kensington. The sidings at South Ken have been on the cards for some time. It is my understanding that they will not get the go ahead based on cost more than anything else. Nothing has been firmly decided though.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 15, 2008 18:31:50 GMT
Would it be possible to stable more trains in platforms?
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