Three-day Tube strike in jobs row

This is related to industrial action several weekends ago at Neasden Depot. Several LU staff members have posted about it and the effects that the action had on services on the Metropolitan Line.

Channeling COLIN:

districtdave.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=met&action=display&thread=1173552771

Thanks to OP and TheOneKEA for the link. It helps try to explain this to us "non TfL/LU" folks.

I followed the original "Colin" thread referred to but didn't quite understand it as it seems to imply politics, deregulation, privatisation, private-public-initiative and all sorts of stuff I understand are NOT considered suitable for discussion here.

My interest is supported by recent BBC documentaries broadly saying that the Tories were wrong over deregulation etc., but pointing out New Labour - who in 10 years can hardly claim any excuses for not having changed the position - have left the systems of a national integrated transport policy in even more dire straits.

Not naming any politicians of course, just the fact they seem to be mirrored by people who react to a genuine input by someone with ignoring what they say, accusing them of "cherry picking" extracts of Official Publications that suit their perceived cause, and respond in condescending, arrogant and offensive "one-liners".

In such a climate, it is no surprise there are breakdowns in communications and serious attempts to solve simple misunderstandings that subsequently get blown up out of all proportion.


Whilst traditionally conservative with a small "c", I gathered that the country government's role is primarily to supply essential services to its citizens in return for the taxes they pay.

On such a personal philosophy, I've regretted Thatcher's "Privatisation" of essential public services such as transport, power etc., as well as dismantling similar essential services on which we increasingly rely on the so called "global village" import/export etc., which are so vulnerable to political and terrorist disruption.

I get the clear impression this and associated threads here, plus the planned strike action affecting the lives of some million or so citizens, are just not being discussed openly and freely.

OK. Negotiation tactics preclude full public disclosure.
But any forum that suppresses discussion over the underlying principles cannot be relied upon.

And the common-sense inherent problem with privatisation is that profit must be built in and guaranteed to the shareholders and operators OVER AND ABOVE that called for by a "break-even" nationalised industry.

Because the profit motive takes over at the expense of cost-cutting, reducing essential expenditure, and wages to employ the cheapest capable of doing the job rather than the skilled best capable of doing the job.

In view of the overall LU Situation, and the thread topic of the proposed 3 day strike, I'd welcome anyone to enlarge on what the underlying problems really are.

Assuming such open discussion is permissable here?

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OngarParkNRide

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Admirably.

I wonder if similar issues were encountered when Alstom took over Golders Green, Morden and Highgate when the 1995TS came on stream.

Mostly. It is worth noting that fleet maintenance management on all Metronet lines will be transferred, not just those who are getting new stock.

So does this mean that Metronet will be unable to prepare all the trains for service overnight? They have to be prepared no more than 24 hours before they come into service.

I return from annual leave on Monday morning - just in time for the fun and games?!

From my limited experience of being transferred from Defra to Natural England, the issues of protected rights can get very complicated very quickly, particularly with regards to things like pensions. I get the impression you need to be a specialist in employment law to fully understand all the ins and outs of what can and can't be done by who, when and under what circumstances.