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Post by Chris M on Apr 9, 2007 0:18:32 GMT
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Post by Chris W on Apr 9, 2007 7:56:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2007 18:29:54 GMT
I missed this thread and duplicated it, sorry about that.
Anyway, who actually counted over 570 different species and where can we find the full list?
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Post by District Dave on Apr 9, 2007 19:51:08 GMT
It is a pretty varied environment along there (for those of you who don't know it ) so in many ways I'm not too surprised. I agree though that I'd like to see the full list, particularly as it's only a couple of mles from 'here'. Interesting too to appreciate how adaptable 'species' are to human intervention.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2007 21:16:35 GMT
I have seen foxes lurking amongst the shrubs and bushes that grow out of the embankment west of Turnham Green, near the divergence of the Richmond branch.
In the springtime I have also seen pheasants along the Met Main.
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 9, 2007 22:11:48 GMT
The cynic in me thought the animals were in reference to the public! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2007 22:25:23 GMT
Well, some of them do tend to leave carcasses [chip boxes, empty beer cans] all around the place, don't they? Quite a few hyeena travel about on the system too... though this breed is something of a hybrid...
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Post by ongarparknride on Apr 12, 2007 20:34:31 GMT
Hi, Chris W, thanks for digging out the old thread and posting the link.
As an administrator, please can you clarify if "new" points arise should one start a new thread or resurrect an older but relevant thread?
I note a "similar" problem arose very recently on the BBC 4 Tube Night topics.
Personally, I rate the ability of a forum to search the archives for answers and relevant topics to resurrect to either ask new questions, or add information is a privilege of posting and adding to the forum's knowledge pool on subjects that will assist those with similar specialist interests.
I'd be very grateful for your comments, please. Apologies if the site's "netiquette" means I should PM you over this, or post in the overall guidance/admin threads? Having taken time in reading and trying to observe the latter, I got a rather offensive and personally directed PM that rather muddied the waters apart from other things.
Cheers, OngarParkNRide
Cheers, OngarParkNRide
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Post by Oracle on Apr 12, 2007 20:42:00 GMT
I often dig up old threads on forums that I subscribe to (two with over 2,000 postings on)...sometimes new info comes to light. The easiest thing to do is say that you apologise for digging up an old thread but.....blah! blah! As long as it is relevant why not? It is in fact much better and webiquette in fact to do a search to see if there is already a thread. It seems to gall forum members that a new thread is started about a subject discussed previously. Not all of us are efficient at searching though!
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Post by Chris M on Apr 12, 2007 21:59:02 GMT
In my experience getting meaningful results from the search engine on this forum is not an easy task, so I use a combination of (a) my memory of what has been discussed and (b) looking in some obvious places. My memory isn't perfect (and anyway the original thread dates from before I joined the forum!) and I obviously didn't go back far enough in this case. Nobody (except perhaps Colin ) is perfect at finding old threads! In my experience of various internet forums, the longer ago a thread was the less people are bothered by another one on a similar topic. Also, the only time I personally have a problem with people digging up old threads is if what they are saying is irrelevant to it, or just bumping it for the sake of bumping it.
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Post by Oracle on Apr 12, 2007 22:09:19 GMT
As to your ultimate sentence, Chris, that goes without saying and also applies across other forums. Needless to say that there are still those who do for one reason or another known only to them. There are also those whose sole purpose in life is to keep posting to boost the vital numbers up and they resuscitate old threads as a vehicle in which to post when they simply lack the ability to contribute in a new or ongoing discussion.
Going back on thread I remember pointing out to my kids years ago mice in the suicide pits at stations..very cute they were. Also loaded with diseases!
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Post by stanmorek on Apr 14, 2007 18:37:19 GMT
I once encountered a fox using the pedestrian subway at Chiswick Park after the station had closed for the night. Another time there was this fox using Ealing Common Depot as a short cut and it absolutely reeked.
Speaking of which, there was one time I had to go up a scaffold that had been put up next a bridge abutment. It hadn't been used for months and the local pigeons had made it home. Since it there wasn't enough headroom to walk through I had to crawl along my front through months worth of pigeon droppings...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2007 20:53:26 GMT
Speaking of which, there was one time I had to go up a scaffold that had been put up next a bridge abutment. It hadn't been used for months and the local pigeons had made it home. Since it there wasn't enough headroom to walk through I had to crawl along my front through months worth of pigeon droppings... Nice I remember going to Heathrow when I was 11 years old, we saw a Fox running along the cutting very fast. That was the first time I had ever seen a Fox in real life. I often used to see Mice scampering about on the conductor rails at Euston City Branch, early in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2007 22:43:40 GMT
Lots of foxes around on the District, especially on the Wimbledon branch.
I once saw a cat going the other way (on the adjacent track) at enormous speed in the tunnel between Bayswater and Notting Hill Gate. That was a bit surreal.
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Post by stanmorek on Apr 18, 2007 21:48:04 GMT
I was told that there was once a fox warren up until recently near the land on top of the south portal to tunnel TL250 between Southfields and East Putney on the Wimbledon branch. On night I found a dead fox on the tracks who appeared to have had a spot of bad luck crossing the juice rails at the same tunnel portal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 22:37:38 GMT
It amazes me that more animals don't electrocute themselves crossing the track.
If a fox touches one of the live rails and the ground at the same time, doesn't it get fried? I must admit I don't really understand how electricity works - I just know that if I don't touch either live rail I'm OK!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 6:46:36 GMT
Hmm.. pigeons and mice manage to walk along the conductor rails without getting fried presumably because they're not touching ground. So in that theory if a human jumps and lands perfectly on a juice rail (and keeps their balance) they don't get fried either?! Another puzzling question is, how do the mice that are walking along the juice rail get off it without getting fried?
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Post by CSLR on Apr 19, 2007 7:57:41 GMT
Hmm.. pigeons and mice manage to walk along the conductor rails without getting fried presumably because they're not touching ground. So in that theory if a human jumps and lands perfectly on a juice rail (and keeps their balance) they don't get fried either?! Assuming that everything is working correctly, that is perfectly true. It used to be a common sight to see staff hopping on and off of running rail - negative - running rail when crossing track; or shunters jumping onto or walking along positive rails. As long as no other part of the body is earthed it is 'theoretically' safe. However, I can testify through personal experience that things do not always work as they should. I have received a hefty belt when placing my foot on a wooden crossing in heavy rain - presumably by current leakage from the positive rail. That is understandable. What is less easy to understand is the occasion when I was thrown off of a negative rail in dry weather while not apparently in contact with anything else. This was accompanied by a shock that felt like the muscles in the back of my leg were being ripped out while being hit with a cricket bat. I was subsequently given a technical explanation by a senior member of the depot staff about a hairline crack in the rubber sole of my shoe coupled with a train on the section with a positive earth. This was then disputed by another member of staff who came up with an even more complex explanation. So yes, a hop-skip-and-jump should be safe but I urge you not to rely on it. Electricity can be less predictable than we expect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 17:05:01 GMT
It amazes me that more animals don't electrocute themselves crossing the track. If a fox touches one of the live rails and the ground at the same time, doesn't it get fried? I must admit I don't really understand how electricity works - I just know that if I don't touch either live rail I'm OK! Foxes are regularly fried on the Bakerloo line. Usually it's the younger ones who haven't learnt to avoid the rails. I'm not actually sure how that knowledge is transmitted unless it's through observation of peers being fried. Certainly there are plenty of rail-savvy, grey-coated older foxes roaming around the line. I have seen a fairly young fox (back in September I think) running across the track and then turning and snarling at my train and another fairly young one (maybe the same one) recently sitting sunning itself by the track in the same area. God knows how they learn but it's nice to see the ones who do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 17:50:31 GMT
EDIT: I have only become aware that my post appeared as a blank post... Dunno how it happened, but anyway, will try to remember what I wrote!
Oh yeah.
Was at Ruislip DEP one autumn morning, saw a badger wandering along beside the perimeter fence, muct have been scared by my prescence... It dissappeared towards the station overbridge, next thing I notice is a puff of smoke.
Poor animal.
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