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Post by cdr113 on Jan 28, 2007 23:18:43 GMT
Was passing through Monument station late evening on 26th Jan and someone had taken a dive down the (stopped) escalator down to the Central line, looked in a pretty bad way (was being attended to by other passers-by by the time I got there, so didn't like to start a gawping mob). Was just wondering if any staff know what happened to the poor chap, as it was a fairly shocking thing to witness the aftermath. Feel free to pm me if its not appropriate to discuss in public.
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Post by chris on Jan 29, 2007 16:40:44 GMT
Hope he's ok. Hope you're not too shaken - even relitively minor things like this can throw you up!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 18:35:20 GMT
Falls on escalators are normally nasty. Even a fairly small fall usually results in facial or leg cuts. Lots of blood normally result.
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Post by cdr113 on Jan 29, 2007 19:19:12 GMT
Without going into any innappropriate detail, I think it may have been a pretty serious one, sadly...It was a fall down rather than up, I do hope it looked worse than it was.
It certainly was a fairly nasty thing to see, although there was a young woman there who had obviously seen his fall and was fairly freaking out about it. No idea how/why he fell, or how far, but not nice for anyone directly involved.
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 29, 2007 19:40:57 GMT
People didn't hurt themselves so much when there were wooden cleats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 20:03:53 GMT
Ouch...nasty...hope the poor person recovers...  People didn't hurt themselves so much when there were wooden cleats. You sure we didn't have ladies getting their high heels wedged on the wood and tripping over? ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 20:27:14 GMT
wasn't the fire at Kings Cross in 1987 caused by a wooden escalator?
is that why they are all metal now?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 20:31:11 GMT
It wasn't the wooden escalator that caused that incident; it was the accumulation of muck and grease underneath. The wooden panels, probably varnished, added to this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 21:04:45 GMT
It wasn't the wooden escalator that caused that incident; it was the accumulation of muck and grease underneath. The wooden panels, probably varnished, added to this. I'm not sure on this one, but would they have been varnished with shelac-type varnish, which is highly flammable? |
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Post by Chris M on Jan 30, 2007 0:04:10 GMT
wasn't the fire at Kings Cross in 1987 caused by a wooden escalator? is that why they are all metal now? All but one - at Greenford. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2007 0:06:51 GMT
I thought Greenford's escalator had been refurbished with metal treads by now. If it is still there then I would like to see it.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 30, 2007 0:15:03 GMT
The last time it was mentioned on this forum it was still wooden - that would be a few months back.
I'm planning on taking a trip there when I'm next in London (about a fortnight), when I shall take photos of the escalator regardless of what material it is constructed of.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2007 11:12:52 GMT
My wife fell down an escalator at Tottenham Court Rd, and had a nice imprint of the escalator on her bottom for some time!
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Post by cdr113 on Jan 30, 2007 11:56:10 GMT
wasn't the fire at Kings Cross in 1987 caused by a wooden escalator? is that why they are all metal now? All but one - at Greenford. southgate was still a wooden one last time i was there - wasnt it just in the central area that LUL was forced to remove the wooden treads? not sure if its just me, but the wooden escalators always seemed much quieter... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2007 19:26:32 GMT
All wooden escalators at Section 12 underground stations were removed. AFAIK Marylebone was the last S12 station to have them.
As Greenford is above ground and not subject to the same regulations.
The escalator at Greenford was refurb'd 18 months ago and retained it's wooden steps.
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Post by stanmorek on Jan 30, 2007 21:40:50 GMT
Greenford will be getting new MIP lifts as part of LU's obligations to the DDA along with the refurbishment of the station. From what I've learnt replacement of the escalator may also feature in these plans but that's yet to be decided.
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Post by Tom on Jan 30, 2007 22:29:13 GMT
Where are they going to put that then? Unless it will go where the SS's office currently is.
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Post by stanmorek on Jan 31, 2007 22:14:02 GMT
Where are they going to put that then? Unless it will go where the SS's office currently is. Promise not to laugh and I'll tell you  The lift will sit inbetween the SSO and the machine chamber of the escalator going up from ticket hall level through what is currently the skylight. The skylight will be replaced by a new walkway extending over to the end of the platform on the viaduct. The platform canopy will be extended over to the new lift entrance. And the existing staircase will be replaced by a new one. That's the lastest idea I've heard. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2007 19:12:51 GMT
I only went to the machine chamber once, but I could've sworn it was under the platform.
The last plan I heard about was the lift was going in the LU offices by the flourists, but Metronet change their mind.
Greenford was a 'funny' choice for MIP facilties, North Acton & Hanger Lane could have MIP facilities much easier and hence cheaper.
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Post by stanmorek on Feb 2, 2007 22:26:09 GMT
Oh I forgot to say the lower machine chamber below ticket hall level. There's a staircase under the escalator for maintenance staff connecting the upper and lower machine chambers. Sorry been stuck down too many dark holes in the system  As for the choice of station I'm not sure but it has some sort of strategic significance to LU. Like Hainault which is on site now on the eastern part of the Central line. Quite a few stations like those "Holden style" stations have protected "heritage features". This is a problem as new lifts have to be concealed within the existing station to preserve its overall appearance at the expense of staff rooms. |
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Post by ongarparknride on Feb 3, 2007 8:17:21 GMT
Re: King's Cross Fire cause, and wooden treads etc., slightly old news from last month seems to herald a further King's Cross Disaster might recur - cutting back on cleaning staff: london-underground-news.newslib.com/story/6878-164/Apologies if I'm repeating old news already discussed here. cheers, |
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