Where do the trains come from, Daddy?

The new stock 92TS.

cheers.

and if someone throws pasta at the windscreen! a story I read somewhere... might be from the main site.

There was once a leak in a Circle line brick tunnel between King's Cross and Farringdon that was so bad it was dubbed the "P-Way Shower"!

But you can't really tell where the seepage is from afterall it could be leaking from a foul water sewer! Samples are taken for lab analysis of chemical composition.

On a serious note even though seepages are not an immediate sign of structural problems in a tunnel it does cause a problem by clogging up ballast with fines. The ballast becomes congealed and is hard as concrete no longer having any give. Unless pumped ,water in tunnels has nowhere to go as the 6 foot drain is only a carrier drain. This can cause track circuits to short, shortens life of track components and affects ride quality.

Hi again Guys, and thanks for your input.

I'm absolutely certain I read somewhere cab wipers were omitted from the previous stock on conversion - just wish I could remember where - but take your points re: dust etc. and associated need for both cab wipers and washers.

Re: Tom's reply #9 above, I take the post in good faith and literally. (No offence intended!)

Errrr, so the 20 cars cost £x million, and a train washer costs £y thousands, and the train washer hasn't yet been installed???

And how long has the current stock been running?

And where the heck are they putting it? From my long-ago learned knowledge, the Waterloo depot is packed tighter than a caseful of tinned sardines that have been through a waste compressor, and a car wash machine requires a square drive-through section with additional clearances for the machinery, as opposed to circular tunnel.

Methinks perchance you might be extracting the urine, Tom? :-)

cheers,

Thanks Chris, I hope my smilie indicated I was not being offensive in any way :-)

My depot VCR's (Stonebridge Park comes to mind) show a static Wash Structure with the train moving through, requiring end-through-end clearance for the object train. So I agree with you on the principal of fixed brushes.

My point is of interest in whether a car wash has actually been planned or installed in the "drain", and if so where it has physically been located, plus how a train is passed through it (as per surface practice) in view of the storage and stabling siding restrictions at the Waterloo depot. So it's actually a serious enquiry, and albeit worded light-heartedly, I'm not in any way intending any offence. The depot construction may be adequate for clearance, but as a train can't pass "through" the washer it has to go through in, then out, in which case available clearance would still be restricted by the tight pointwork at the entry into the sidings and clearance, so without quite a lot of bucket and spade work I'm intrigued how a washer could be fitted in anywhere!

I guess for a long time the lads down there relied on a bottle of Fairy Liquid, (or Tesco's Value washing up liquid which at 13p a bottle would have kept the operating overheads even lower) a bucket of hot water, and a brush and a squeegee both mounted on extension handles - if that. Backed up by drivers' wives occasionally having very dirty pocket handkerchiefs to wash.

What else arising is interest in cab wipers being provided on stock without window wash pumps, nor reservoirs containing anti-freeze cleaning water..... retrospectively if necessary.

It also kicks off interest in the de-icing "troughs" incorporated in surface tube & Cut&Cover stock for their motor bogie pick-up shoes. These I believe where on the lines of a roller wheel that the shoe contacted, like a roller postage stamp licking machine principle, that presumably needed regular filling and in real life made any difference for a very short distance after the train passed where they were fitted. Hence shorting out the conductor rails to de-ice through their internal resistance at a lower current prior to trains actually running on frosty mornings?

cheers,

The train wash will be situated in one of the sidings.

The hole in the road, is the only method of stock access to the W&C line. The trains are lowered by crane into one of the depot sidings. The old lift and track spur was removed for the Chunnel platforms.