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Post by Chris M on Dec 4, 2006 9:53:33 GMT
"WATERLOO & CITY LINE: Suspended due to excessive dust on platforms."
I'm sure there is a good reason for suspending a line because of excessive dust, and presumably there must be a reason for there being excessive dust - but this has got to be one of the stranges reasons for disruption to any train service I've ever seen!
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Post by Phil on Dec 4, 2006 10:10:07 GMT
Possibly disturbed asbestos??
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Post by CSLR on Dec 4, 2006 10:16:38 GMT
this has got to be one of the stranges reasons for disruption to any train service I've ever seen! The strangest one I ever saw was, "The train service via Bank is temporarily suspended due to a cat under a train at Euston". |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 10:40:45 GMT
It's certainly a change from the usual excessive moist. ;D
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 4, 2006 13:14:43 GMT
Well, on a section of line that has had weekend works on it, I suppose a certain amount of dust will be dislodged and fly around. Drilling and all that.
I have had passengers come up to me complaining their clothes are all dusty when they have travelled on a stretch of line that had work done on it a few hours previously.
The substandard will love this, it just isnt good pr though for TFL.
EDIT: Just seen this item on teletext, what I said above was the case, platforms were caked with dust, but more importantly, drivers couldnt see signal aspects clearly.
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Post by weldernomore on Dec 4, 2006 13:31:22 GMT
There was a grinding train down there this weekend. obviously metronet didnt clean up after themselves. there is a special spray availalble. which u spray on the affected areas which sticks the dust together.maybe it was to much for them to think forward that far as to there would be dust....tut tut  |
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 4, 2006 13:40:20 GMT
Oh dear! So it was [yet another!] Metronet blunder! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 15:40:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 19:38:41 GMT
Maybe a new name for the W&C? The Dust Line
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 19:39:22 GMT
The Dusty Drain?
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Post by DWS on Dec 4, 2006 21:35:36 GMT
Oh dear! So it was [yet another!] Metronet blunder! another Metromess ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 1:39:44 GMT
They did have an overrun this morning, so too little time? But an overrun till 1630... this is a bit excessive!
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Post by c5 on Dec 5, 2006 8:02:29 GMT
An again this morning - No service because of emergency engineering work  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 9:05:46 GMT
They did have an overrun this morning, so too little time? But an overrun till 1630... this is a bit excessive! Well, it wasn't actually an overrun. The line opened as usual but was closed again after a while due to excessive dust. Then it went into 'Emergency engineering' (cleaning) until 1630. |
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Post by Chris M on Dec 5, 2006 11:01:58 GMT
I wonder if opening the line, then reclosing it for emergency engineering counts differently on the various performance factors etc to a significant engineering overrun?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 11:56:14 GMT
I think Metronet and LU are having a row over this. Yesterday, after the emergency cleaning, the tunnel was considered clean enough to operate again. This morning, after a night of cleaning, it suddenly is too dusty again to operate.  |
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Post by yellowsignal on Dec 5, 2006 11:57:05 GMT
As far as i understand it (i am no expert in this) they get fined for not running trains. This would mean the reason for not running is not relevant (except probably if the reason is beyond metronet's control, like the 7/7 bombings).
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Post by edb on Dec 5, 2006 13:27:41 GMT
I know that this is neither the time nor the place but the Drain isn't exactly a good advert for the extended line closures they want to implement.
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 5, 2006 13:31:22 GMT
Is the W&C the line that is most suspended, due to every sort of failure imaginable?
It cant go a week without being suspended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 15:29:57 GMT
You have to admit though, they can't exactly part suspend the line either.... ;D
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 5, 2006 15:44:44 GMT
No!  |
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Post by edb on Dec 6, 2006 8:28:55 GMT
Perhaps you could have some reversing practice in the Waterloo depot???  |
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Post by Ben on Dec 6, 2006 20:28:38 GMT
They could have taken the oppertunity to make the entire line bi-di signalled. That way if there were a problem in one direction, the other could be used both ways as on a 'one engine in steam' principal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2006 22:04:46 GMT
They could have taken the oppertunity to make the entire line bi-di signalled. That way if there were a problem in one direction, the other could be used both ways as on a 'one engine in steam' principal Would be good for enthusiasts, but there's no business case for it. Such a service could only run in the off-peak, because in the peak the platforms would get so overcrowded with people it'd be considered unsafe. Even in the peak, it could still be considered unsafe to run only one train at one time. Plus, how often would it be used? (And, an even better question, how many engineering weekends would it have taken to put right Mr Metronet? ;D) |
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Post by ongarparknride on Feb 3, 2007 8:06:03 GMT
A bit more info: An alternative and a bit more informative news report than news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6206828.stm Coxster posted at #7 above, is at: london-underground-news.newslib.com/story/6879-70/If you compare the stories, Metronet state the reason for creating the dust is "prudent, responsible, and follows best practice..." So who forget to specify in the contract Metronet should clean up and remove the dust afterwards? Or was the bag on their vacuum cleaner full? As the "dust" was presumably finely ground metal, have any drivers noticed their cab screens have looked like they'd been through a sandstorm recently?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 19:52:36 GMT
Nah, they didn't have a Safety case for the modded Vax.
I wonder if they have solved the pidgeon problem at Waterloo?
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