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Post by Alight on Dec 24, 2007 15:00:39 GMT
Something tells me TFL are going to keep it on the map as a full Bus Replacement Service scheme which in my opinion is not good Did Aldwych get the privilage of a replacement service route stuck on the map forever? Nope. So why does Shoreditch have the right? Surely its never going to open again so they shouldn't dwell on this. LOOL I sound like a complete killjoy to all you East London Line fans. I just dont feel it should remain on the map now its closed as the map is cluttered enough as it is. Alex
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 24, 2007 15:05:36 GMT
If they took it off...........they would only be putting it back on in 2010 when the extension is finished.......which will lead to a more cluttered map [with the extra stations]
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Post by glasgowdriver on Dec 24, 2007 15:10:17 GMT
god this is gonna be fun this is when the tourist will all want a shot on the east london line and gonna drive me nuts trying to tell them its closed god help me!!!!!
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Post by miztert on Dec 24, 2007 15:37:42 GMT
Something tells me TFL are going to keep it on the map as a full Bus Replacement Service scheme which in my opinion is not good Did Aldwych get the privilage of a replacement service route stuck on the map forever? Nope. So why does Shoreditch have the right? Surely its never going to open again so they shouldn't dwell on this. LOOL I sound like a complete killjoy to all you East London Line fans. I just dont feel it should remain on the map now its closed as the map is cluttered enough as it is. Alex ! The ELL hasn't been permanently closed, as it will be reopening as part of a longer route. Shoreditch station did indeed close forever last year, but the northern extension will bring with it a new station (Shoreditch High Street station) very close to the site of the old station. So yes the whole route will stay on the Tube map, though the dashed orange line and adjacent bus logos will provide a clue to passengers that this isn't an ordinary line - and of course the map legend will provide more information (and I bet there'll be a text box with an explanation on the map too). And then in 2010 things will change again and the line will be shown on the Tube map as part of the London Overground network linking up Croydon with Dalston. Of course there may be a radical redesign of the map before then - it certainly was considered by TfL recently, though evidently any major redesign was rejected. I know people complain about the Tube map getting cluttered up, but I think it remains a good, clear design. Anyway, London isn't simple and uncluttered - the map is there to make sense of London by explaining it, not by removing the bits that minimalist graphic designers think look awkward!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 15:49:39 GMT
I found the tube map to be a time saver when it comes to showing tourists how to get to where, and I never go to work without some in my big railway coat! All you have to do is circle; where they are, where they need to change and where they are going to, and most will follow it with ease. I am talking about people who have literally got off a plane from another country having never been in London before!
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Post by glasgowdriver on Dec 24, 2007 17:32:09 GMT
well station i work at (which i will not name) is a pain you get tourists walking up you circle it high light lines interchanges tell them platform numbers and they still go the wrong way half of them its a waist of time thing i find with passengers is that they only listen to what they want to listen to and thats generally the stuff that is nothing to do with them
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Post by Alight on Dec 24, 2007 18:22:50 GMT
Well I am slightly inexperienced at such a forgotten line ! However indeed it is being extended (duh! ) but it is to become part of the LO which to me isn't really LU and therefore doesn't really need to keep on having "East London Line" mentioned. But of course I believe LO will be calling that service East London Line but still 2010...a long wait. Perhaps the DLR should brand its lines too..
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Post by metman on Dec 24, 2007 19:38:34 GMT
Check out a map of Brussels if you think we've got problems!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2008 8:22:57 GMT
Perhaps the DLR should brand its lines too.. I've been thinking that for a long time... but you do have the problem of the east-west routes not being consistent. Yes, there is a norm, but whenever there are major exhibitions on, there are lots of differences. Not to mention what happens when things go wrong...
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Post by miztert on Jan 15, 2008 9:07:04 GMT
Perhaps the DLR should brand its lines too.. I've been thinking that for a long time... but you do have the problem of the east-west routes not being consistent. Yes, there is a norm, but whenever there are major exhibitions on, there are lots of differences. Not to mention what happens when things go wrong... The DLR did used to show its routes in three different line colours (red, green and blue) - but this was only on it own (DLR only) maps, not on the London Underground map where it always appeared as one colour (though on the LU map it used to be a darker blue double striped line rather than the double turquoise line it is now). I'm pretty sure the three DLR route colours on the DLR's own maps were ditched when the Beckton extension opened in 1994. As well as potential confusion with the District line (green) and Central line (red), the idea of having set coloured routes limited flexibility on the DLR - as trains can go down any of the branches, so the service pattern on the DLR can easily change along with demand, plus as pmnorthern says different services can be run for exhibitions and indeed also at peak times. For all the above reasons I don't think it'd be a great idea to brand specific DLR routes with colours, though I can certainly see why this initially sounds like an attractive idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2008 11:31:29 GMT
DLR is using differnet coloyrs with material attached to Canning Town's new junction. The problem is if they made it public they would have to choose colours current not on the map creating a worse map.
In car DLR maps so the same colour but routes that are physically possible for customers to take in there zones. But its like they will be re designed by 2011.
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Post by edwin on Jan 15, 2008 22:16:39 GMT
(though on the LU map it used to be a darker blue double striped line rather than the double turquoise line it is now). I'm not so sure... The colour looks lighter and more greeny on DLR maps, but darker and bluer on Tube maps to me.
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Post by superteacher on Jan 15, 2008 23:11:49 GMT
The DLR route coloured remained for a while after the Beckton extension opened, although I'm not exactly sure when they were finally ditched. Mind you, with the Sttatford International - Custom House section opening, will there be a need to start subsdividing the DLR again?
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