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Post by mrfs42 on May 14, 2007 17:27:36 GMT
Last night's bedtime reading material (angelislington had gone home ;D) was Met WTTs 85/86 - October 1941.
The ELL is printed at the back of Met No 1 section but the timetable galley shows Hammersmith at the start - looks most odd going Hammersmith, Aldgate East, Shoreditch,Whitechapel (E.L.) &c.
The stock transfer moves are all timetabled to Neasden via Aldgate E, nothing goes to Hammersmith at all on any of the pages.
Anyone got any idea what Hammersmith is doing there on the galley? It's bunched together in a box with Hm, Ald E SD and Wcpl (E.L); the rest of the ELL is in another box.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2007 18:25:43 GMT
I doubt it would be transfer trips for rolling stock - could it be staffing? Was the traincrew depot at Hammersmith open at that time?
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Post by Oracle on May 14, 2007 18:28:20 GMT
I wonder if it was in the case of bombing, trains could be sent to Hammersmith?
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Post by mrfs42 on May 14, 2007 22:51:12 GMT
A possible clue comes from the main galley of Met. No.1 section, the bottom box has: Aldgate East, New Cross, New Cross Gate, Whitechapel (Dist), Barking - the H&C service at that time was to Whitechapel off-peak and Barking in the peak. I did wonder if it was a printer's error - as I've not got anything to compare it to.  Certainly by 1949 the New +s had gone from the galley - Met No 1 Easter TTN has the corresponding box as Aldgate East, Whitechapel (Dist), East Ham, Barking with the East London bit of the Timetable notice only being Whitechapel, Surrey Docks, Canal Junction, New Cross Gate, New Cross. Is it conceivable that there were thoughts of a Hm - ELL service during the war years? All my (in the timetables to hand) ELL stock transfer paths are labelled as 'to N(easden) or (in 1938) 'to Met. Line' Any further thoughts?  |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 15, 2007 0:17:29 GMT
<looks around furtively> Erm, I've just found out my own answer - the relevant paragraph from CULG explains it all. Through trains to Hammersmith ceased off the ELL in 1941 - wot's the date of my TT  after the service change. |
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Post by tubeprune on May 15, 2007 10:42:14 GMT
Didn't your WTT show the trips to Hammersmith?
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Post by mrfs42 on May 15, 2007 10:52:55 GMT
Sadly, no. The bedtime reading material: Met WTT 85/86 (No1 and ELL) and WTT 87/83 (No2) came into force on 6th October 1941.
The paths seem to have been removed from that date.
For earlier stuff I could only find a District/Picc from '38 at home - that just gives a single time at Aldgate East for moves to/from Met. Line or New X/New X Gate.
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Certainly by 1949 the New +s had gone from the galley - Met No 1 Easter TTN has the corresponding box as Aldgate East, Whitechapel (Dist), East Ham, Barking with the East London bit of the Timetable notice only being Whitechapel, Surrey Docks, Canal Junction, New Cross Gate, New Cross.
after the service change.
