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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2006 18:19:38 GMT
Now that Shoreditch is gone and Whitechapel is the northern terminus, has there been any change in peak hour reliability on the ELL? I'm mainly curious to know whether or not the availability of two platforms to reverse in during the peak hours makes a difference or not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2006 20:15:52 GMT
According to WTT 9 obtained via FoIA -
Peak trains operate every 5.5 minutes on the trunk route and 11 mins on either branch and stepping back has been introduced at Whitechapel.
All trains use p5 to reverse with the exception of train 174 in the mornings which is a staff service.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2006 20:55:56 GMT
Wow, only 11 minutes to each terminus? You'd think that with a scissors crossover and two platforms available, a more frequent service could be run (i.e. a 4 min service to Surrey Quays, with an 8 minute service to each terminus).
Is the line not that busy? I was under the impression that it was quite busy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2006 17:20:57 GMT
What's FOiA ?
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Post by Colin on Oct 16, 2006 17:29:12 GMT
Freedom of Information Act.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2006 17:36:03 GMT
what are staff trains used for?
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Post by Colin on Oct 16, 2006 17:42:35 GMT
Exactly what it says on the tin! - they are used before the first public train of the day, and sometimes after the last public train of the day, to transport drivers [and station staff] to their book on/off point when no other means of transport exist. These trains are covered by night drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2006 17:47:49 GMT
are these run on all lines. are these instead of staff taxis?
do they not run on parts of lines that are parraleled by a bus, eg 25 with the central line
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Post by Colin on Oct 16, 2006 17:58:28 GMT
As far as I'm aware, they only run on the East London Line and the very northern tip of the Met (Rickmansworth to Amersham area).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2006 0:41:48 GMT
Correct Colin.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2006 0:44:15 GMT
The Picc has late night staff trains between Cockfoster and Arnos Grove
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Post by DWS on Oct 17, 2006 17:49:23 GMT
The Jubilee Line has Staff trains between Stratford Market Depot and North Greenwich - Stratford.
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Post by hlsmith on Oct 18, 2006 13:06:07 GMT
Is the line not that busy? I was under the impression that it was quite busy. Only 35000 people a day use it. To put that in context that is the same amount of people who use Vauxhall Station. |
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Post by greatplum on Oct 22, 2006 14:23:57 GMT
Any time that I have been on it, (twice!!) the trains have been nearly empty!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2006 17:06:24 GMT
The Northern Line has staff trains - I think purely for station staff purposes. One from Golders Green - Edgware NB early morning (I think thats weekdays), and one East Finchley - Mill Hill East (all days I think), one early NB trip and one late SB trip. This is all from memory so I could be mistaken about the specifics but they definitely do exist on the Northern Line
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2006 17:49:01 GMT
The Vic also has staff trains throughout the day between Seven Sisters and Nortumberland Park Depot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 22:07:34 GMT
The Northern Line has staff trains - I think purely for station staff purposes. One from Golders Green - Edgware NB early morning (I think thats weekdays), and one East Finchley - Mill Hill East (all days I think), one early NB trip and one late SB trip. This is all from memory so I could be mistaken about the specifics but they definitely do exist on the Northern Line When did LU start running staff trains on the Northern? It was taxis, when I worked at Golders Green. Incidently, there used to a staff train on the Hammersmith & City too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 1:03:29 GMT
An interesting list I think: the number of passengers divided by the number of stations:
(line - journeys in millions - stations - journeys / stations)
Victoria 161 16 10.1 million
W & City 10 2 4.8 million
Jubilee 128 27 4.7 million
Northern 207 50 4.1 million
Bakerloo 96 25 3.8 million
Central 184 49 3.7 million
Piccadilly 176 52 3.4 million
District 173 60 2.9 million
Circle 68 27 2.5 million
H & City 46 28 1.6 million
Metropolitan 54 34 1.6 million
East London 10 8 1.3 million
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 31, 2007 13:33:21 GMT
When did LU start running staff trains on the Northern? It was taxis, when I worked at Golders Green. Incidently, there used to a staff train on the Hammersmith & City too. There were always staff trains or buses in LT days. I remember the Picc used to do a couple to West Ken in the mornings (a hangover from the days when the Picc stabled at Lillie Bridge) and the District used to run an early morning train to Aldgate East. |
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Post by ongarparknride on Jan 31, 2007 18:15:48 GMT
I think we have gone a tad off-topic of this thread re: staff trains, but here goes...
I recollect from Loughton on the Central in the mid-late 1950's there were BR through workings that were described to the public as effectively "Staff Trains". These were typically 0300 and 0400 hrs workings to probably the Stratford interchange, forward?
I'm interested that since the "breakup" of London Transport busses and trains, taxis have been commonly provided for out-of-hours staff workings? Specifically because the central co-ordination of buses and trains disappeared on devolution?
Is this just boring, or might it warrant someone starting a more specialist information thread?
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