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Post by ruislip on Mar 4, 2008 22:11:17 GMT
Was stepping back ever used, especially during the peaks? I feel that it would have especially during the AM with trains originating at Stanmore, Wembley Park, Willesden Green, and West Hampstead.
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Post by metman on Mar 5, 2008 0:57:34 GMT
Aw! Good question!!
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 5, 2008 1:20:15 GMT
No. I can't quote many examples as 'Big Bird'[1] is asleep in the LU Operations library - however I've got a 'pending' pile of Working Timetables to be shelved, after they have been catalogued: I can find Jubilee 5 (3/11/86) on the sofa - there is no inverted delta symbol in the WTT, this has been used since the early 50s for 'stepping back' (Met. crews at Barking ISTR, but sleepers preclude further checking). From memory, there was some form of 'stepping back' in about 1980/81 (in the first couple of years of the Jubilee, before Room 217 learnt the quirks ) Will report when I return from Acton as I've got a decent spread of pre-JLE [2] WTTs. [1] angelislington knows of whom I disparage. [2] Jubilee Line Extension
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Post by simonthetube on Mar 5, 2008 18:29:19 GMT
As far as I recall, stepping back started with Timetable No 7 in January 1989 and it lasted until until the end of Timetable 9 in April 1991. And it was good fun too, especially at the bottom of the escalators in the moring peak.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 5, 2008 21:46:55 GMT
I managed a quick peek in the LU library before leaving Wales this morning and there was certainly some stepping back in WTT 1 (1979) - quite a few in the morning peak and about 10 trains in the evening peak.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 3:53:35 GMT
I was on the Jubilee line in 1983/4 and no stepping back at Charing Cross took place then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 7:25:03 GMT
As the Jubilee ran 20tph to Charing X, then there couldn't have been more than 4 mins to change ends.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 18:08:30 GMT
Definitly no stepping back, but I can't remember what turn arounds we had at Charing Cross though.
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 23, 2008 14:58:00 GMT
Sorry to go off the subject here a little but I dont suppose any has any images of Charing Cross Jubilee do they? cheers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2008 16:34:35 GMT
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Post by glasgowdriver on Mar 23, 2008 17:43:46 GMT
remember when i done my sa training we went down into the old charing cross platforms was really really weird lol and quite freaky as you can here trains rumbling and was very eary still a great experiance tho prob the only time i would ever get to go down the escalators to the platforms
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Post by undergroundernie on Mar 24, 2008 21:32:01 GMT
I can see why it made the perfect setting for such films as Creep and 28 Weeks Later I actually managed to get down there on a railtour last year although we werent allowed off the train it was still a good experience.
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Post by stanmorek on Mar 24, 2008 21:57:36 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Mar 24, 2008 23:00:02 GMT
Excellent pics. Little has changed since closure.
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 25, 2008 14:19:09 GMT
I can see why it made the perfect setting for such films as Creep and 28 Weeks Later I actually managed to get down there on a railtour last year although we werent allowed off the train it was still a good experience. It's a wonderful place and not creepy at all, I used to do the Jubilee point and signal maintenance there after it closed to passenger traffic but of course I worked all over the site from 1979 onwards and have been in most of the many nooks and crannies in the old Strand and Trafalgar Square areas as well as the Jubilee stage 1 site. Some of the more interesting parts of the site will never be seen by passengers or enthusiasts including the sidings and of course the cavernous inverts beneath the platforms, concourse and escalator chambers which in their day were quite a departure from the then existing standards which necessitated (and still does at most tube stations) working in very confined spaces at most sites. In 1981 I had an office of sorts in one of the disused Trafalgar Square lift shafts and I was based on the station for many weeks installing new comms equipment and cabling so I got to explore a great deal of the site as I investigated the cable routes between the three lines.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 29, 2008 16:44:00 GMT
Jubilee No 7 (16/1/89) has stepping back between 0802½ and 0952½ in the morning, 3 or 3½ minute booked turnrounds; evening stepping back 1644½ - 1846.
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