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Post by happybunny on Feb 6, 2008 18:35:29 GMT
Today we all know about the Jubilee problems. It seems that after TC was lost, one train did not start up again? Now personally, it seems to me that the T/Op (forgive me if I am wrong) did not operate the ABSIC or the ABSIC was defective or something, causing line breakers to open and therefore no movement when TC re-charged. Can anyone confirm what actually happened?
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Post by c5 on Feb 6, 2008 18:42:43 GMT
Today we all know about the Jubilee problems. It seems that after TC was lost, one train did not start up again? Now personally, it seems to me that the T/Op (forgive me if I am wrong) did not operate the ABSIC or the ABSIC was defective or something, causing line breakers to open and therefore no movement when TC re-charged. Can anyone confirm what actually happened? There have been a number of recorded earths also. Plus similar trouble on the past few days. What is the procedure on the Jubilee in cases of recording an earth, HB? So how exactly does this switch work? Does operating it avoid the use of a footpump?  Help! |
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Post by happybunny on Feb 6, 2008 19:09:39 GMT
Firstly... I meant TSIC not ABSIC... TSIC is Traction Supply Isolating Cock... ABSIC is Air Brake Supply Isolating Cock (I really shouldnt get them mixed up :$) I dunno about the earth thing Operating the TSIC (under a seat in car one) isolates a secure reservoir of air. So that when juice is off and air goes you have some back up air, so when the juice is turned back on you de-operate TSIC to supply enough air to close the line breakers (which open when TC goes off, because compressors stop working and air in the train gradually (but fairly quickly) disappears with no compressors to provide more). Which supplies juice to the train again to start compressors running, to get the air back! Simple really.... of course if the T/Op forgets to operate the TSIC the air disappears, line breakers open, compressors die, no air.. train dies! The only way to get it back is foot pump (long process) .. so its pretty important to do the TSIC's |
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Post by swedishblue on Feb 6, 2008 23:43:10 GMT
Are you talking about this mornings service or this evenings? From what i hear the Jubilee went into meltdown this evening as the Met had to carry most of the supporters to Wembley. Looked like everything was being held up at Baker Street as the Mets had such heavy passenger loadings. I don't think it's been a very good week for the Jubilee so far this week!
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Post by Colin on Feb 6, 2008 23:52:19 GMT
The District controller actually made an announcement on the radio this evening, when the Jubbly went belly up again (honest, he really did!) - it was suspended Green Park to Stratford owing to a "faulty train".............he never said where though.
Once it was sorted, the line obviously had severe delays, then later still, minor delays. It certainly would have made dealing with the football traffic a total nightmare.
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Post by towerman on Feb 7, 2008 20:06:32 GMT
The story is that TBTC staff didn't secure an earthing bond after mods and it was coming into contact with the posi rail.
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Post by c5 on Feb 7, 2008 20:53:37 GMT
The story is that TBTC staff didn't secure an earthing bond after mods and it was coming into contact with the posi rail. Was that the case with all the trains or just Wednesday evening? |
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Post by towerman on Feb 7, 2008 22:10:39 GMT
Sorry,didn't make myself clear,it was an earthing bond on a train.
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Post by c5 on Feb 8, 2008 7:34:09 GMT
Sorry,didn't make myself clear,it was an earthing bond on a train. Was that on all the trains that recorded an earth or just that one in the evening? I believe one also came out of SMD with an earth!  It was a bit of a Black Wednesday with a gapped train on the Met at Wembley Park delaying Engineering Hours and loss of Signal Mains at Ealing Common and Acton! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2008 19:16:00 GMT
There was a piece of metal hanging off one of the trains causing an earth. That is what screwed everything up (APARENTLY).
Mitcham - I wouldn't go blaming the train op yet. Not until you know the full facts. It has been known for train ops to use the Traction Supply Isolating Cock and then still lose all the air.
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Post by jubileedaf on Feb 25, 2008 3:27:04 GMT
the driver was not really up to much may i add didnt have a clue what he was doing needless to say when he did move off could hear the line controller asking the driver to isolate his train to which the driver replied "i dont know how to isolate my train" and these people get train op jobs why!!!!!!! when there is people like me who want to be a driver and seem to know alot more about the stock than the idiots they have driving some trains Mitcham, Having myself worked as an SA and SAMF before becoming a T/op can I just point out you may think you know more about the 96TS but trust me you don't!! They are an extremely complex piece of kit with a multitude of MCB's Rotary Switches and Isolating Cocks not to mention the Round Train and Safety Circuits.... Did you stop to consider that due to the mega recruitment drive in the last year that it may well have been a relatively new T/op worried about making a mistake and losing the job they worked so hard to get?? There's nothing wrong with asking if you have any doubt!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 7:07:18 GMT
I've just sent you a PM jubileedaf
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