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Dec 31, 2005 14:02:23 GMT
Post by citysig on Dec 31, 2005 14:02:23 GMT
I heard something about how apparently it was cheaper to run a bus service than to make the Met platforms at Willesden Green to be safe to use! Yes that's how it started. Then the powers that be agreed that it would be nice to get the platforms back up to a decent spec, and as some of the cost came under the 7-car project, they thought why not! EDIT: Apparently, although I was never informed (  ), the Met ceased calling at Willesden Green from around 1230hrs yesterday! |
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Dec 31, 2005 15:37:40 GMT
Post by q8 on Dec 31, 2005 15:37:40 GMT
Yes, and that was always the case. So now the Bakerloo and Wobbly are the only lines with trains 'wrong way round'. [Possibly because of the Baker Street connecting link] The Bakerloo has something to do with the position of the UNDM to make shunting easier in Stonebridge Park - I can't remember exactly. Oh It's far older than that on the Bakerloo Tom. It dates back to just after the war I think when the UNDM's came for the '38 stock. As there is no cab on the undm's they cannot be driven on a running line except in emergency. When uncoupling was in force on the B'loo it was done at QP or Stanmore as there was nowhere to stable the units at the Elephant. So the 3 car was put at the south end to aid the shunt to the shed/sidings at those northern locations. It is possible though that units may have been stabled in the northbound siding at E&C in the off peak. |
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Dec 31, 2005 16:03:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2005 16:03:32 GMT
EDIT: Apparently, although I was never informed ( ), the Met ceased calling at Willesden Green from around 1230hrs yesterday! I found that out when I ended up in Wembley Park yesterday  |
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Dec 31, 2005 19:48:21 GMT
Post by Tom on Dec 31, 2005 19:48:21 GMT
The Bakerloo has something to do with the position of the UNDM to make shunting easier in Stonebridge Park - I can't remember exactly. Oh It's far older than that on the Bakerloo Tom. I did wonder about that, was it the 3 car or the 4 that was stabled, and where? However, that reason for the stock being the wrong way round ceased to exist after uncoupling finished. The answer to why it continued with 1972 stock is so that shunting in Stonebridge can be done using the middle DM rather than the UNDM. |
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Dec 31, 2005 21:22:30 GMT
Post by towerman on Dec 31, 2005 21:22:30 GMT
The reason 72TS were turned before transferring to the Bakerloo was that prior to refurb they had 38TS shunting controls on the UNDM which were Westinghouse brake only and were notouriously unreliable and they didn't want shunters approaching buffer stops in an UNDM.Obviously now this doesn't apply but it would be too much hassle to turn the trains back.Q8,96TS is right way round,it's just that the 4 car is a "D" unit instead of an "A" as normal.
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Dec 31, 2005 23:39:04 GMT
Post by q8 on Dec 31, 2005 23:39:04 GMT
Oh It's far older than that on the Bakerloo Tom. I did wonder about that, was it the 3 car or the 4 that was stabled, and where? quote] the 3 car unit was stabled. South shed at QP and sidings at Stanmore. Possibly, just possibly the northbound siding at Elephant. |
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Jan 1, 2006 2:16:33 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 1, 2006 2:16:33 GMT
1st of January, only 8 units left to convert.
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Jan 3, 2006 1:29:12 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 3, 2006 1:29:12 GMT
Now only 5 units left:96001,96045,96069,96105 & 96107,one slight problem,only 1 trailer left in SMD the other 4 haven't been delivered yet.
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Jan 4, 2006 10:17:24 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2006 10:17:24 GMT
Just seen this on the TfL website:
JUBILEE LINE: Minor delays are occurring following an earlier faulty train at St Johns Wood.
Wonder what happened there.....
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Jan 4, 2006 20:48:26 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 4, 2006 20:48:26 GMT
Only one unit left now 96001.
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Jan 5, 2006 0:18:55 GMT
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Biolizard - dunno but I was stuck in the train behind at Swiss Cottage |
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Jan 5, 2006 20:36:18 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 5, 2006 20:36:18 GMT
All 96TS are now 7 car trains,just 2 more additional trains to be delivered in March/April,they will come as 7 cars.
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Jan 5, 2006 22:57:26 GMT
Post by Colin on Jan 5, 2006 22:57:26 GMT
Thanks for all the updates throughout the 7 car project Towerman  |
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Jan 5, 2006 23:07:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2006 23:07:03 GMT
Thanks for all the updates throughout the 7 car project Towerman I'll second you on that. So is the new timetable starting on Monday? |
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Jan 6, 2006 7:49:29 GMT
Post by citysig on Jan 6, 2006 7:49:29 GMT
I'll second you on that. So is the new timetable starting on Monday? No reason not to now. I must admit I was quite surprised, apart from a couple of incidents, that towerman's posts were on the whole reporting progress! I had expected lengthy reports of further incidents ending up with the cancellation of the project. They're obviously getting the hang of this railway thing ;D |
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Jan 6, 2006 19:34:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2006 19:34:22 GMT
I'll second you on that. So is the new timetable starting on Monday? No reason not to now. I must admit I was quite surprised, apart from a couple of incidents, that towerman's posts were on the whole reporting progress! I had expected lengthy reports of further incidents ending up with the cancellation of the project. They're obviously getting the hang of this railway thing ;D I think things are on the up at LUL! |
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Jan 6, 2006 20:19:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2006 20:19:53 GMT
Proper preparation prevents pi$$poor performance. I note in 'On The Move' that new GM and acting GM (who's shortly off to run the Bakerloo) undertook simulations of the changeover in the great outdoors  |
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Jan 6, 2006 20:25:59 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 6, 2006 20:25:59 GMT
WTT 8 does indeed start on Sunday,only change is more trains to Stratford in peak,NOG reversers cut down to 3tph.
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Jan 9, 2006 20:44:21 GMT
Post by citysig on Jan 9, 2006 20:44:21 GMT
Proper preparation prevents pi$$poor performance. I note in 'On The Move' that new GM and acting GM (who's shortly off to run the Bakerloo) undertook simulations of the changeover in the great outdoors Ah now there's a publication the company should be proud of. Full of positive information about station and managerial staff. Sometimes the odd article about train ops too. But seldom an article about Service Control. Bit like the recent series of The Tube. The word "biased" comes to mind, can't think why though. The proper "PPP" as you put it would have meant an outdoor rehearsal was unneccessary. WTT 8 does indeed start on Sunday,only change is more trains to Stratford in peak,NOG reversers cut down to 3tph. Oh it started alright. Sunday afternoon saw very heavy blocking back from Stratford to Westminster and also from Stanmore to Wembley Park. Late running averaged 15-20 late. Just too many trains using both termini. Great planning that ;D Bit like the plan that was circulated just before introduction, which warned drivers to be aware that due to the different timetable, some signals which may normally be clear may now be at danger. It's taken them how many timetables to work out this simple fact. Next they'll be getting rid of all the signals as they don't work as they should. Oh wait a minute.... |
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Jan 11, 2006 21:38:06 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 11, 2006 21:38:06 GMT
96123 is now at SMD,interestingly,only as a 3 car unit.
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Jan 11, 2006 23:32:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2006 23:32:19 GMT
Is there an echo in here? ;D
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Jan 12, 2006 1:31:17 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 12, 2006 1:31:17 GMT
Not anymore.
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Jan 14, 2006 1:20:57 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 14, 2006 1:20:57 GMT
96124-96123 now delivered to SMD and it's a 6 car!!
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Jan 31, 2006 21:11:41 GMT
Post by towerman on Jan 31, 2006 21:11:41 GMT
All additional trains are now at SMD,one 7th car trailer is sitting on engineers sdg behind 2 Schoma locos,one trailer still to arrive.
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Feb 1, 2006 20:31:56 GMT
Post by towerman on Feb 1, 2006 20:31:56 GMT
96124-96123 is now a 7 car train.
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Feb 2, 2006 21:33:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2006 21:33:10 GMT
I've just read in the always very interesting LURS Underground News (February), that one of the 7-car trains accidently ran in public service before the Christmas closure. Ooops!
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Feb 5, 2006 21:28:03 GMT
Post by towerman on Feb 5, 2006 21:28:03 GMT
That was a joint cock up between the driver and Neasden depot,incidentally,the last 7th car must be coming this week.The Schomas are booked to return to Ruislip on Thursday night.
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Feb 5, 2006 22:26:32 GMT
Post by DWS on Feb 5, 2006 22:26:32 GMT
The last 7th Car is due to arrive by road at Stratford Market depot on Tuesday 7th February 2006.
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Feb 7, 2006 20:16:20 GMT
Post by towerman on Feb 7, 2006 20:16:20 GMT
All Jubilee trains are now 7 cars 96126-96125 was done today.
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Mar 7, 2006 22:18:10 GMT
Post by towerman on Mar 7, 2006 22:18:10 GMT
The first additional train entered service today 96122-16121 as T367 17:37 SMD till 20:01 SMD.Will post again when I find out if it will be out on Wednesday,if anyone's interested on having a ride on it.
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