|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 15, 2006 23:38:51 GMT
Hi gang,
I have noticed there are freight workings which go to West Ruislip LUL Depot which are EWS jobs, the workings are as followed:
6V73 Tues/Thurs Only 15:39 West Ruislip LUL - Acton yard 7M60 Tues/Thurs Only 03:22 Grain - West Ruislip LUL
I'm not familiar with the layout of West Ruislip and the surrounding areas, how do these workings gain access to the LUL depot from NR metals?
Any replies appreciated
CJ
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2006 23:40:30 GMT
on the denham side of the road bridge, there is a shunt neck connected to the down line, This is how the 96 stock was delivered...
|
|
|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 15, 2006 23:54:20 GMT
Thanks ATO, I have just had a look at the area with Flash Earth and can see the connection you are talking about.
Does the EWS Loco enter the shunt neck then push the train into the W. Ruslip Depot? Or just as far as the shunt neck and (I guess) a Battery Loco would haul the wagons in? As I have noticed the shunt neck is a dead end which would trap the loco at the Denham end of the consist, thus not allowing the loco to run round via the mainline to the other end of the train.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2006 0:02:04 GMT
AFAIK, a 66 or whatever locomotive, pushes the consist into the yard, as far as the LU/NR boundary... a battery loco will then take over.... I think the consist is top and tailed usually....
Will do some detective work when I can...
|
|
|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 16, 2006 0:10:13 GMT
I've just done a bit of searching on Fotopic and came across a pic of the movement happening - geoff-plumb.fotopic.net/p26917649.htmlSo, 7M60 enters the shunt neck, the EWS Loco pushes the wagons back towards W. Ruslip depot, uncouples, then runs back to the shunt neck light engine, and then reverses back onto the mainline.
|
|
|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 16, 2006 0:21:29 GMT
Right... We've worked out how 7M60 goes in...
But... How do the empty wagons forming 6V73 get out? If the EWS Loco goes into the shunt neck light loco, then pulls the wagons out of the depot, it'd be trapped.
So, unless there is another way, this is the only way I can see it can be done, by either:
1. An LUL Battery Loco pushes the wagons out to the shunt neck, then the EWS Loco just reverses onto them and away they go...
2. There are two EWS Locos, one goes in and collects the wagons and hauls them out to the shunt neck, then another pulls the whole consist out onto the mainline.
3. The EWS Loco hauls the wagons into the shunt neck and pushes them out to West Ruislip station, then the 66 runs to the points north of the station and reverses via the 'UP' line to South Ruislip (nearest set of points to the south of WR as far as I can see from Flash Earth) then runs back to West Ruislip and the other end of the wagons, then hauls them away - however I'm not sure if this move could be supported by the signalling.
|
|
DWS
every second count's
Posts: 2,487
|
Post by DWS on Sept 16, 2006 10:49:48 GMT
Shunting of the wagons is done by a 08 class shunter which has been hired by Transplant, when this is not on site, 2 Schoma's are used.
|
|
|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 16, 2006 12:49:34 GMT
Thanks DWS.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2006 13:58:27 GMT
Right... We've worked out how 7M60 goes in... But... How do the empty wagons forming 6V73 get out? If the EWS Loco goes into the shunt neck light loco, then pulls the wagons out of the depot, it'd be trapped. Hi, My fotopic website told me that a referral had been made from this forum, so I had a look and decided to join so that I could reply to this thread. As far as 6V73 is concerned, the procedure is as follows: The loco arrives light engine from Acton Yard and enters the LUL headshunt at West Ruislip. It then reverses onto the empty wagons and draws forward into the headshunt again. Once it is ready and the road is set, a fairly slick operation has to take place as the movement has to fit in with Chiltern trains, both stopping and non-stop in both directions. The train is propelled out of the headshunt onto the down line (there is only one down line as the platform line was removed years ago and the platform extended out to what was the down fast line) as this is the only direct connection. Once in the platform the road is reset and the train pulls forward until it is clear of the crossover from the down line to the up fast line. It then propels again onto the up fast line in the centre road at the station. The loco uncouples and crosses to the down line again and at this point I thought it was going to run round the train on the down line. However, it then crosses over everything onto the up slow and runs towards South Ruislip. The up slow joins the up fast after a short distance and the loco then reverses along the up fast to rejoin the train, couples up and away. The whole process takes 10 or 15 minutes, depending on Chiltern train movements. I hope that clears up this process for you! There is another photo on my website of 6V73 in the centre road at West Ruislip, before the engine uncoupled to run round: geoff-plumb.fotopic.net/p26493686.html This is in my "Three Dimensional" collection, but if you are unable to see the 3D effect, just look at the pictures normally! Cheers for now, Regards, Geoff
|
|
|
Post by Christopher J on Sept 24, 2006 14:09:13 GMT
Hello Geoff, Thank you for a very detailed answer to my question, it is exactly what I wanted to know. Also, welcome to the forum - do enjoy your stay with us! Once again thank you - keep up the good work with your fotopic site too. Best wishes. Christopher
|
|
Oracle
In memoriam
RIP 2012
Writing is such sweet sorrow: like heck it is!
Posts: 3,234
|
Post by Oracle on Sept 24, 2006 18:34:33 GMT
Cheers Geoff! We may it seems be contemporaries. I however grew up from 1955-65 in Feltham, and so the SR was my breeding ground with the Shed and Marshalling Yard nearby.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 11:38:48 GMT
Hi Christopher,
Glad that the description of 6V73's moves has cleared up your query!
Hello also to Oracle - sounds like I may predate you a little - I was born in Sheffield in 1949, moving to North London in 1957. I do have a couple of shots in the Feltham area - I'll look them out and add them to my fotopic site.
Cheers for now, Regards, Geoff
|
|
Oracle
In memoriam
RIP 2012
Writing is such sweet sorrow: like heck it is!
Posts: 3,234
|
Post by Oracle on Sept 27, 2006 13:04:42 GMT
Hi Geoff, you are my senior by about six years. I remember '57 to a limited extent as my brother was born that year. You have an excellent photo collection!
David
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2006 17:58:18 GMT
Hi Christopher J, In case you need any more clarification with regard to 6V73 at West Ruislip, I have put up a few more photos of the move described on my fotopic site, starting at: geoff-plumb.fotopic.net/p35476335.htmland a couple after that. Unfortunately, as from next week and the clocks going back, all these moves will take place in the dark! Regards, Geoff
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2006 19:12:20 GMT
Apparantly last week it was 60054 on that train
|
|