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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 19:38:34 GMT
When the 2009TS start coming on stream, will they contain the same sort of RADBs that the current 1967TS have?
If so, does that mean that they will be subject to the same restrictions when in Coded Manual, due to the inability of the Vic signalling system to transmit the code of the next block section to the train?
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Post by Colin on Nov 4, 2005 1:09:57 GMT
When the 2009TS start coming on stream, will they contain the same sort of RADBs that the current 1967TS have?  What?? If so, does that mean that they will be subject to the same restrictions when in Coded Manual, due to the inability of the Vic signalling system to transmit the code of the next block section to the train? I thought the signalling system was being renewed to co-incide with the new stock - as on the Central line. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2005 7:32:20 GMT
the victoria line is indeed the first line to get re-signalled under the PPP agreement god knows when though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2005 10:35:04 GMT
When the 2009TS start coming on stream, will they contain the same sort of RADBs that the current 1967TS have? What?? RADB = Replacement Auto Driver Box. The clever name given to the replacements for the ADBs, Auto Driver Boxes, first installed in the 1967TS. Apparently it's a great stonking big pile of electronics hidden under one of the rows of seats behind the cab. If so, does that mean that they will be subject to the same restrictions when in Coded Manual, due to the inability of the Vic signalling system to transmit the code of the next block section to the train? I thought the signalling system was being renewed to co-incide with the new stock - as on the Central line. I was under the impression that it would be, but not concurrently - i.e. the 1967TS and 2009TS would be sharing the existing signalling system during traffic hours, while outside traffic hours the new signalling would be installed and tested, and when the 1967TS are finally withdrawn and/or the 2009TS test cleanly on the new signalling with no other trains on the line, that they would finally switch out the old signalling and switch in the new. |
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Post by Tom on Nov 4, 2005 19:49:16 GMT
The situation is slightly different - the 67 stock is being fitted with NADBs (New Auto Driver Boxes) to work under both the old and new arrangements. The new signalling will actually start to be commissioned in an interim format before all the 67's are withdrawn.
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Post by antharro on Dec 24, 2005 19:36:36 GMT
Just out of curiosity, when the new system is all in and working and the old system becomes redundant, will it be removed, or just left there disused? Seems it would be cheaper to leave it in there, but a better job to remove it...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2005 23:40:02 GMT
Just out of curiosity, when the new system is all in and working and the old system becomes redundant, will it be removed, or just left there disused? Seems it would be cheaper to leave it in there, but a better job to remove it... It has always been the practice in the past to remove redundant equipment from tunnels, this happened when the Central line was upgraded so I assume the same will happen on the Vic. |
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Post by edb on Dec 27, 2005 21:05:28 GMT
It has always been the practice in the past to remove redundant equipment from tunnels, this happened when the Central line was upgraded so I assume the same will happen on the Vic. But this is now PPP |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2005 21:18:28 GMT
It has always been the practice in the past to remove redundant equipment from tunnels, this happened when the Central line was upgraded so I assume the same will happen on the Vic. But this is now PPP And your point is?  Under PPP, I would expect large projects such as the VLU to be done more properly than before the days of PPP, as the infraco gets severly fined if delays result from their actions. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 27, 2005 21:43:52 GMT
It has always been the practice in the past to remove redundant equipment from tunnels, this happened when the Central line was upgraded so I assume the same will happen on the Vic. But this is now PPP Put it this way, if the W&C Project is anything to go by, redundant kit will be removed. Certain items may have a historical relevance, in which case their removal to a safe location will be specified. |
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Post by c5 on Dec 28, 2005 3:30:53 GMT
As CitySig and others have said in another thread somewhere or tother, MetroMess and their ilk sometimes prefer to pay their (capped) fines, or usually close a job, without fixing it, very very common.  |
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