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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2007 14:59:14 GMT
Does anybody have pictures of Bakerloo line trains at Kilburn High Road Station?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2007 19:44:46 GMT
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Post by Oracle on Dec 8, 2007 21:35:19 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the 4th rail is only 'live' to the end of the EB/Up platform?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2007 22:10:45 GMT
Cheers, a nice picture. Thank you very much. Richard |
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Post by happybunny on Dec 9, 2007 1:13:07 GMT
Wow they had graffiti in the olden days too :S  |
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Post by metman on Dec 9, 2007 1:17:03 GMT
I don't think it is live (unless a train is on it) but it is supported by conductor rail chairs and the rail is bonded to the running rails. When the picture was taken I'm not sure whether the 501s had been converted to 3rd rail operation-by the amount of graffiti on the train I would suppect yes!
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Post by tubeprune on Dec 9, 2007 13:15:34 GMT
Wow they had graffiti in the olden days too :S Serious exterior scribble graffiti first appeared on LU on an A Stock in August 1984. It went downhill after that. |
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Post by tubeprune on Dec 9, 2007 13:26:29 GMT
I don't think it is live (unless a train is on it) but it is supported by conductor rail chairs and the rail is bonded to the running rails. When the picture was taken I'm not sure whether the 501s had been converted to 3rd rail operation-by the amount of graffiti on the train I would suppect yes! They went 3rd rail in 1971ish IIRC. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2007 16:24:14 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the 4th rail is only 'live' to the end of the EB/Up platform? nope both platforms have the forth rail I have acctually seen a 72 stock that came in and reversed on the southbound platform full of metronet staff |
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Post by Oracle on Dec 9, 2007 20:29:25 GMT
nope both platforms have the forth rail I have acctually seen a 72 stock that came in and reversed on the southbound platform full of metronet staff I thought that there was just an UP>Down #-over? That move would suggest a wrong-libe movement then or a shunt? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2007 10:21:26 GMT
It's odd that both platforms have the 4th rail as the only way a 72stock could get to the down platform is a WDM from Queens Park down and there'd be nowhere else for it to go from there! There are 1 or 2 timetabled test trains a day from Stonebridge Park depot to Kilburn High Rd that rarely run, so thats when you probably saw the Metronet blokes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2007 16:54:53 GMT
and I think they must of tested the refurbished stock when they first entered service
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Post by superteacher on Dec 23, 2007 21:38:08 GMT
Have the Kilburn High Road reversers ever gone there in passenger service, or has it always been an empty stock move?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2007 21:56:46 GMT
I have a book with a pic of the Starlight Express 38ts at Kilburn High Road southbound ['up' DC] platform, dated May 1985. Its a colour print.
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Post by Tom on Dec 23, 2007 23:08:07 GMT
Have the Kilburn High Road reversers ever gone there in passenger service, or has it always been an empty stock move? Only ever an Empty Stock Move IIRC - mainly due to the lack of trainstops south of Queen's Park. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 7:21:01 GMT
all signals are trainstopped on the Bakerloo now. they fitted them to all the NR wrong road starters and Kilburn High Road about 3 years ago. Removed the need for a second man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 22:03:47 GMT
It's odd that both platforms have the 4th rail as the only way a 72stock could get to the down platform is a WDM from Queens Park down and there'd be nowhere else for it to go from there! There is a 4th rail from 501pts? (Cross-over south of LT running shed) to the south end of Kilburn Station on the Dn line. However like the 4th rail north of Harrow it is only used as a traction current return path, and is not gauged for line or level and will also be missing ramp ends where S&T equipment etc has been mounted in the 4'. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 12:31:11 GMT
There was a Bakerloo that went to Kilburn High Road about 22.00 yesterday (28th Feb). I was changing ends on a top and tailed loco and coaches in Kilburn loop (NR loop between Queens Park and Kilburn High Road which runs alongside the DC lines) when a tube train went past me. I was totally dumbfounded for a moment until I remembered this thread. It was heading north and stopped in the platform at Queens Park for quite a few minutes. I do not know if any passengers boarded it or not though.
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Post by Oracle on Feb 29, 2008 14:30:08 GMT
Is the loop used for reversing traines then, e.g. ex-East Coast going to Euston? I know the sleepers on diversion use Wembley depot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 16:00:43 GMT
when I saw it there were a load of metronet blokes in there holding clip boards
BTW I think the platform at kilburn high road is to high to let passengers board/alight there
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 18:14:22 GMT
Is the loop used for reversing traines then, e.g. ex-East Coast going to Euston? I know the sleepers on diversion use Wembley depot. I was taking an empty stock to Wembley which had come off of the Western Region. I do not know if passenger trains are allowed to reverse in there. |
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Post by Oracle on Mar 3, 2008 18:58:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 11:24:31 GMT
You were never allowed to take punters due to it being un-trainstopped. Nowadays, i don't see any reason why not except maybe there's no CSDE and it would probably cause more confusion than it would alleviate. I for one wouldn't fancy tipping a trainful of punters out there on my own when the jobs up the wall!!!
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Post by bakerloo38 on Aug 8, 2008 8:39:05 GMT
nope both platforms have the forth rail I have acctually seen a 72 stock that came in and reversed on the southbound platform full of metronet staff I thought that there was just an UP>Down #-over? That move would suggest a wrong-libe movement then or a shunt? from qpk one reversed on the up (south) platforn after changing ends, there used to be a hand controlled box under the bridge. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2009 23:17:49 GMT
Hey all - I was getting into my Zipcar tonight right by Kilburn High Rd station at about 725 PM tonight and I saw a rather unusual site - a Bakerloo line train coming down the Overground line. It was coming from the Queens Park direction and went straight on through Kilburn High Rd and carried on towards Euston.
Does anyone know why this was? I couldn't really tell if there were people on board but the lights in the carriages were on.
Anybody know what's up??
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Post by metman on Feb 11, 2009 23:40:56 GMT
Occasional empty stock moves are done, also for driver training. I didn't think the current rails go beyond Kilburn High Rd. There is a threat on this, look under the Bakerloo line section.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 0:03:10 GMT
rubbish - Sorry if I duplicated a topic. I don't think it stopped at the station though, it was going pretty fast when it went under the bridge carrying the high road over the tracks. Hmmm
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Post by 21146 on Feb 12, 2009 23:23:11 GMT
There was a Stonebridge Park - Queen's Park 3 train shuttle operating, reversing via Kilburn High Road, due to signal failure at Wembley (IIRC)
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 12, 2009 23:25:54 GMT
If the problem wsa at Wembley, then why was it run as a shuttle, instead of a through service to Elephant?
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Post by upfast on Feb 12, 2009 23:30:10 GMT
If the problem wsa at Wembley, then why was it run as a shuttle, instead of a through service to Elephant? To reduce the impact of the Wembley park issue causing further delays on the rest of the line. Keeping the bad part of the line away from the good part. |
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