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Post by stanmorek on Jul 4, 2006 9:43:28 GMT
It could be a trade secret but I'll ask the question. But what kind of information does the Oystercard reader give out at the barriers? It tells you things like how credit is left on it but does it give out a signal when a staff pass is being used?
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 9:56:14 GMT
It tells you a few things, if you have prepay, it will tell you how much you have left, and how much that particular journey cost you.
In respect of travelcards, it tells you when it is going to expire, it just says on the pod [display] "ticket near expiry".
Staff passes act [in terms of sounds] exactly like normal adult oyster cards. Child oysters and 16/17 oysters produce a different sound, so as to aid identification, if staff feel the pass is being used fraudently. The same happens with paper tickets in this respect.
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Post by stanmorek on Jul 4, 2006 10:02:29 GMT
Doesn't also give out code numbers to say why a card has rejected? Like a CSA can tell if a card has been swiped twice in quick succession?
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 10:02:34 GMT
I forgot to mention the display displays a two digit code if the oyster is rejected.
94 is the most common one and means the person hasnt swiped their oyster properly. 24 is passing through zone 1 without having zone 1 or no prepay to cover that journey. There are a whole host of codes.
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Post by stanmorek on Jul 4, 2006 10:03:47 GMT
I forgot to mention the display displays a two digit code if the oyster is rejected. 94 is the most common one and means the person hasnt swiped their oyster properly. 24 is passing through zone 1 without having zone 1 or no prepay to cover that journey. There are a whole host of codes. That was quick. Are you a human computer by any chance? |
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 10:06:50 GMT
Psychic!  Rare that I have seen code 63, which is a blacklisted pass. 99% of the time someone has a "63" they take their time in getting to their barriers, I wonder why!  |
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Post by Colin on Jul 4, 2006 10:33:10 GMT
Also, anyone (including staff) can find extra info when they present their card on the Multifare machine's reader (the big touchscreen one) And *I think* the queue buster machine (the smaller touchscreen one, at some stations). This can tell you what's loaded on the card as well as which journeys you recently made.
As for the barrier codes, obviously most people don't realise that staff already know why their ticket has been rejected before they even speak to the customer. That can have some amusing results when they give it the "I never went anywhere near zone 1" routine. "Really" say's the CSA, presenting the card on a reader, "so you never entered the system at Whitechapel at 1110 and arrived here at Fulham Broadway at 1150 then"? ;D ;D ;D
The 'paper' magnetic tickets can give a goldmine of info too, but thats really a ticket office or revenue control inspector job.
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 10:45:24 GMT
I have had that soooo many times Colin. "I've never been to.......High Barnet"! They really think we are that thick. I remember one guy who had just prepay, which you can lend to someone else when you are not using it [transferable].
The guy's oyster wouldnt work, and by the code, it meant there was no money on it. "I put a tenner on it yesterday" he said. We went over to the machines to read the card, it revealed he had went all over the system, you think he was a tube fan!!! [Epping, Upminster, Heathrow etc] I have never been there.............Hang on when am I have supposed to have gone to these places, Err, yesterday I said. "I lent it to my mate yesterday"!!!. The look on his face, cant imagine what he was going to do to his mate!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2006 10:54:55 GMT
Rare that I have seen code 63, which is a blacklisted pass. 99% of the time someone has a "63" they take their time in getting to their barriers, I wonder why! According to www.cryptart.com/oyster/ 63 is "too long on platform" rather than blacklisted so by definition they've taken their time in getting to the barrier. |
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 11:13:55 GMT
Apologies! I meant 53, the heat is getting to me!
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 4, 2006 15:32:04 GMT
The ticket office can see the last 8 journeys by using their Tom [Ticket office machine]. Mfm [multi-fare machines] and Qbm [Queue buster machine, the small one that takes credit/debit cards only] Shows the last 8-10 journeys. You can have up to three travelcards on an oyster and up to £90 in prepay,this may have changed recently though, not to my knowledge though.
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Rare that I have seen code 63, which is a blacklisted pass. 99% of the time someone has a "63" they take their time in getting to their barriers, I wonder why! 
