Random though for the day: Enfield

It would certainly beat going round and round the circle or reversing at Aldgate but can't see it happening.

I heard word that the H&C / Circle crews would run to Wimbledon when the Barking runs go over to the Met main. I also saw a new s-stock 'in-car' route map for the district/circle (No met on there for some reason) which had no pink line whatsoever and the Hammersmith branch being changed to yellow! Whatever the good intentions behind abolishing the circle, there is no way the tourists will ever get ther heads round it and it will cause mass confusion!

I agree, I think they'll probably name it that, unless at broadway goes mad and decides to name it the Circle, Hammersmith and City line. C&H&C, madness.

Back to Enfield Town (sorry to hijack your thread mrjrt!), a link at Bethnal Green where the WAGN lines go from 4 to 2 as they head into Liverpool Street would destroy that particular bottleneck. Any closer to LS and the effect would be detrimental I think, unless two new lines are constructed specially for LU trains until Bethnal Green is reached.

I think both the Enfield Town and Chingford routes should run LU surface stock and run into the city, which frees up lots of slots in platforms 1-4 at LS for Hertford East and Stanstead Express trains, albeit at a frequency like the Met north of Moor Park so they fit in well with the one services heading north (4tph is good, especially if 6 or more cars are used per train.

Alas, it'll probably never happen

The Vic Line cannot be extended any more anywhere. It is already carrying 50% more pasengers than it was designed for. Extensions are not possible.

I always thought that a good idea might be to extend the jubilee from startford up to chingford over the branch. Reopen Lea Bridge maybe. That way St James Can be kept open too. From Walthamstow Central Both could share the line to Chingford. This way Chingford has access to central london and the Docklands.

It was brought up when the Commonwealth Games were considered for London and the Lea Valley Leisure Centre would be redeveloped to be part of that. The funding went kaput or something and the Games went to Manchester, along with any reason for providing this mini-branch.

Well "One" railway have said they are not against re-opening Lea Bridge, which closed July 1985. Perhaps the Olympics could change things for the better?

A60s to Barking, I take its thats what you meant? excuse my ignorance, but would A60s fit into PLaistow e/b without fouling the bay road and would they fit in the bay or main at Barking? Would they fit in Whitechapel platform 1 & 3 are they gonna be stowed in Barking sidings because they wont fit in 21 to 24 roads or they would be extremely tight! all the monitors would have to be moved as well to facilitate.

When the scheme was first envisaged, it was planned that the A60's would indeed run to Barking; however that would have involved the appropriate enlargements, and would have opened already too...

That may not be the case at all. Plans are still on the table which could see A60's to Barking.

You guys got to see the new line diagrams?!?? Arrgghhh! I knew I should have gone today

prakash got to see them at work, not on a forum tour.