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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2007 18:47:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2007 21:25:33 GMT
That one with the blue doors is intriguing - presumably from the period when LU were experimenting with liveries before settling on the current red-white-blue?
Does it have "Metropolitan Line" written high up on the body between the doors?
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Post by prjb on Apr 15, 2007 21:53:18 GMT
That one with the blue doors is intriguing - presumably from the period when LU were experimenting with liveries before settling on the current red-white-blue? Does it have "Metropolitan Line" written high up on the body between the doors? Yes, and the London Docklands Development Corporation (LDDC) logo next to the LU roundel. This was one of the colour schemes trialled before we ended up with our current corporate livery.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 18:03:33 GMT
I recall some of the A stock had maroon roofs "unofficially" painted by Neasden on overhaul - there must have been about 5 or 6 of them - they looked great when freshly applied but darkened quickly. Top Brass stopped this and the roofs were then turned out in dark grey.
At the time of fairly endemic grafitti - this was a real morale booster - and sort of fits the image of Metroland I thought - red tiled roofs etc and all that.
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Post by version3point1 on Apr 19, 2007 18:28:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 19:50:41 GMT
I recall some of the A stock had maroon roofs "unofficially" painted by Neasden on overhaul - there must have been about 5 or 6 of them - they looked great when freshly applied but darkened quickly. Top Brass stopped this and the roofs were then turned out in dark grey. At the time of fairly endemic grafitti - this was a real morale booster - and sort of fits the image of Metroland I thought - red tiled roofs etc and all that. In addition to the maroon roofs, there was one with a bright red roof and another with a dark blue one (may just have been the domes) I seem to recollect it being said that the blue doors livery train on the East London, kept prompting calls that there was a train running about with it's doors open ! I have some pictures of C 5585 and 6585 in a livery of grey roof, blue to below the windows then white to the bottom, all red cab !! Pictures now posted to the Circle and H&C section under "C stock liveries"
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 15:25:18 GMT
i reccolect some units with green roofs
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Post by maxtube on Jun 4, 2008 16:30:05 GMT
I think the A stock looks good in NSE livery! They look better without the sticky-out thing around the headlights.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 4, 2008 16:40:20 GMT
How many units were in the 'blue doors' livery, and what ones were they? I have seen pictures of 5064-6064-6065-5065 and 5066-6066-6067-5067 in that livery, and 5132-6132 (the other two cars weren't there) in a depot in the same livery as 5585-6585, that was parked next to it, with a 67TS, also in that livery, on the other side of the C stock.
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Post by johnb2 on Jun 7, 2008 19:41:50 GMT
In the early days when the first appeared the A60s and A62s had grey roofs BUT of different shades of grey. I *think* that the 60s had the light grey and the 62s a darker shade. It was always noticeable from the Marsh Road overbridge in Pinner when an 8 car ran under with one of each batch
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Post by metman on Jun 7, 2008 22:50:57 GMT
I believe the first few trains of A60 stock had black roofs but these were repainted grey at a later date!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2008 23:05:26 GMT
And weren't there some maroon roofs that came out of Neasden upon overhaul in the 80s.
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Post by metman on Jun 7, 2008 23:10:25 GMT
Yes indeed! And green ?!
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Post by Ben on Jun 8, 2008 1:01:49 GMT
I just about remember traveling on a blue doors A60, and also the United picc for that matter.... Long ago now
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Post by tubeprune on Jun 8, 2008 11:29:04 GMT
There were 7 units with maroon roofs and three with red roofs.
All the relevant information is in Brian Hardy's London Underground Rolling Stock 12th Edition 1990 et seq.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 8, 2008 15:36:19 GMT
I believe the first few trains of A60 stock had black roofs but these were repainted grey at a later date! It mentions that in 'Steam to Silver'.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 8, 2008 15:42:25 GMT
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Post by ruislip on Jun 8, 2008 22:31:10 GMT
Would that be the Chesham shuttle, as only 4 cars are present?
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Post by Ben on Jun 9, 2008 13:06:16 GMT
Doubtful; the end motor looks like its a middle DM and thus the unit can't do pax by itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 16:01:39 GMT
You can tell that it is a single ended unit as it doesn't have the OPO door controls covering the lower part of the driver's window.
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Post by metman on Jun 9, 2008 16:55:20 GMT
The train pictured could not run in service-on the Chesham shuttle or on the mainline. The cab in shot has not been upgraded to OPO and does not contain the door controls and radio equipment the 'red' ended cabs do!
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 9, 2008 17:45:20 GMT
That was before they put those ugly barriers on them! Why would a single ended unit be on its own at Rickmansworth? I thought A stock were only coupled into 8 car trains at Neasden.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 17:55:52 GMT
I recently trained someone who had transferred from the Met to the District and he mentioned having to drive single-ended units from the "wrong" end - but I've forgotten why it is done!
Apparently there's all sorts of equipment missing from these cabs and the driver's seat is different, so driving them is not popular. As metman said, they can't run in service.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 9, 2008 18:01:33 GMT
Apparently there's all sorts of equipment missing from these cabs and the driver's seat is different, so driving them is not popular. . They probably took the equipment from these cabs so they didn't have to find spares, like what happened on the 67TS. Was the seat changed when they were refurbished, but there was no point putting new driver's seats in the middle DMs?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 18:56:10 GMT
The "middle end" cabs of the single ended units have no passenger alarm, train radio or door controls. If they are to run outside of a depot the t/op carries a radio handset and then empty only.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 9, 2008 20:23:31 GMT
All right, then, was the 4-car unit at Ricky used in a stock transfer, if that unit could not operate by itself in passenger service?
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Post by metman on Jun 9, 2008 21:24:49 GMT
I guess there could be many reasons why a unit would have to uncouple. If the Chesham shuttle packed up, and there was a single end and a double end unit in Ricky sidings, the double eneded train could be sent to replace it and the single ender could be shunted to a reception road.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 11, 2008 16:22:12 GMT
Wouldn't they send a double ended unit from Neasden?
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 11, 2008 18:35:47 GMT
Would all depend on how quickly the relieving unit could be got there for timetable recovery.
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 11, 2008 19:13:11 GMT
And if shunting at Rickmansworth would get in the way of the Amersham service?
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