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Post by towerman on May 30, 2006 4:26:09 GMT
Does any other line have the same situation we have on the Jubilee at Bank Holidays.Normally from Sunday to Monday there are 4 Wembley T/Ops overnight at SMD,but on Saturday there are 3 Greenwich T/Ops and 1 Wembley T/Op.Now,because on Bank Holidays we run a Saturday service,we end up on a Monday night with the Saturday arrangement.So 3 T/Ops at Stanmore/Neasden have to get a taxi to SMD,then 3 of the 4 T/Ops who stabled their trains at SMD have to get the same taxi back to Stanmore/Neasden.You'd think it wouldn't be beyond the wit of schedules to arrange the duties so the right T/Ops ended up at the right end of the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2006 22:25:29 GMT
But then you're effectively asking for a recast of the duty sheets, for the late turns of Bank Holiday Monday, to enable a balanced number of overnight T/OPs operators at locations, for the next day.
There probably isn't a great deal of flexibility to shuffle duties around to accomodate that, considering the high number of constraints and parameters.
I am aware of something similar that exists on a Northern Line engineering timetable. Where the balance of overnight T/OPs flows smoothly into the normal Monday service, but needs taxi-ing some of the ovenright T/OPs, if the Monday was a Bank Holiday (Saturday) service instead.
I think the taxi-ing of night turns is the far less disruptive of the options. It can't be helped in some cases with Bank Holiday services.
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Post by towerman on Jun 2, 2006 0:19:00 GMT
Another thought,re the extra half hour on Saturday services from next summer,what service are they going to run on Bank Holidays then?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2006 22:18:38 GMT
Another thought,re the extra half hour on Saturday services from next summer,what service are they going to run on Bank Holidays then? Special Bank Holiday service Timetables will need to be additionally compiled, rather than just being able to get away with "The Saturday service will operate". I believe the crunch of the matter will be giving the same amount of engineering hours, which means first and last trains will need to be changed yet again to enable this. I'm not sure of the exact details at present, simply coz these decisions are made somewhere else and we never find out about them until its too late! Whatever happens, my instinct is that there may well be more travelling of night T/OPs just to make it all work on Bank Holiday work. This does mean a substantial increase in workload in producing all this output. And if you think about it, every single engineering notice Saturday timetable will need to be recompiled because of the change in the first and last trains. And correspondingly all duty sheets associated. On top of that, new Friday timetables will be needed on all working books, where it will be the normal MFS, but with later last trains. Being a semi-regular raver myself in London-town, I think the proposed changes: later last trains on Fridays and Saturdays by half hour, and later first trains on Saturday by an hour, are not a great incentive to the night time crowd of London. There's a lot of people who are hanging around Saturday/Sunday morning just gone out in the night in the Central London, and are waiting for the tubes to start running to get home! |
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