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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2007 21:49:04 GMT
I'd just like to spare a thought for the Thames Tunnel returning to National Rail use once again when the ELL re-opens.
Whats the clearence like in there? Is it good enough for standard national rail use, will all locos be able to use it and potentially freight?
What work might be taking place in the tunnel on the rail system because as I understand it the tunnel is grade 1 listed so they'd have to be extremely careful, correct?
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Post by towerman on Nov 8, 2007 22:00:21 GMT
Goods trains used to run through there up to the early 60's.
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Post by metman on Nov 8, 2007 22:22:49 GMT
Let's put it this way-the A stock that uses it are the widest trains in Britain so NR trains should have no trouble!
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Post by stanmorek on Nov 8, 2007 22:35:44 GMT
And to think that LUL threatened to close the Thames Tunnel for good in the 1990s when it was undergoing refurbishment. English Heritage objected to LUL's plans to shotcrete the tunnel lining but instead wanted a complete restoration to it original appearance.
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Post by metman on Nov 9, 2007 1:29:19 GMT
too right!
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 9, 2007 4:18:21 GMT
I have divided views on that! Being interested in the preservation of many things I have come to realise that it is impossible to save and restore everything despite the desires to the contrary. Quite honestly I am not so sure that the money spent on preserving the tunnel itself was worth it unless the cost was justified for practical purposes because hardly anyone will see it and those that do won't recognise it. On the other hand preserving what is clearly visible above ground etc is justifiable. I am one of those lucky enough to have seen and worked in the tunnel almost 30 years ago now and at that time the pumps never stopped running and everything was being eaten away by rust. The cable brackets were so fragile that when we were running in the old lead covered cables the brackets were so weakened that some would simply disintegrate with any additional load. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2007 22:03:04 GMT
I think there is a restriction of 20mph through the tunnel...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2007 20:17:33 GMT
Does anyone know if there are any plans for a walk through the tunnel while the line is closed?
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Post by mrjrt on Dec 22, 2007 20:43:54 GMT
Whats the clearence like in there? Is it good enough for standard national rail use, will all locos be able to use it and potentially freight? I've read that as the gradient on the new ramp to take the line over the GEML lines is too great for freight trains, so I guess that negates freight movements. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2007 21:52:31 GMT
Whats the clearence like in there? Is it good enough for standard national rail use, will all locos be able to use it and potentially freight? I've read that as the gradient on the new ramp to take the line over the GEML lines is too great for freight trains, so I guess that negates freight movements. Why? Just put a pair of locos on the front, a banker on the rear or run it in shorter - and therefore lighter - portions! |
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Post by Oracle on Dec 22, 2007 22:15:17 GMT
The Class 66 locos are pretty accomplished as regards their gradient performance, but the new General Electrics will have even greater perfromace and tractive effort.
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