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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 3:34:09 GMT
Does anyone know if there will be any new emergency reversing points on the LU-signalled section of the ELL, between Dalston Junction and Surrey Quays?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 16:37:48 GMT
I thought they were removing the LU signalling and putting in standard NR instead?
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 9, 2007 16:46:37 GMT
Can you envisage a need for new turnbacks in that section?
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Post by c5 on Oct 9, 2007 16:48:53 GMT
I thought they were removing the LU signalling and putting in standard NR instead? They are. The only thing LUL will be is the Infrastructure Controller. I don't know who will signal and be the command and control for the line though??? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 17:05:17 GMT
How far will LUL be controlling tho? Ie the section north of Whitechapel etc?
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Post by c5 on Oct 9, 2007 17:14:23 GMT
How far will LUL be controlling tho? Ie the section north of Whitechapel etc? I would imagine the new railway (from New Cross/Cross Gate) north of. I'll have to look it up. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 17:21:08 GMT
I thought they were removing the LU signalling and putting in standard NR instead? They are. The only thing LUL will be is the Infrastructure Controller. I don't know who will signal and be the command and control for the line though??? Really? When did that change? I have read previously that the existing ELL between Whitechapel and Canal Junction, plus the ELLX between Whitechapel and Dalston Junction, would be owned by LU, maintained by NR, and signalled by LU/LO/TfL signallers based at New Cross Gate, with the existing SCC at said site upgraded for the new line. |
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Post by c5 on Oct 9, 2007 17:27:32 GMT
They are. The only thing LUL will be is the Infrastructure Controller. I don't know who will signal and be the command and control for the line though??? Really? When did that change? I have read previously that the existing ELL between Whitechapel and Canal Junction, plus the ELLX between Whitechapel and Dalston Junction, would be owned by LU, maintained by NR, and signalled by LU/LO/TfL signallers based at New Cross Gate, with the existing SCC at said site upgraded for the new line. That's what I said (I think!). As to command and control staff, I dont think it has been agreed yet. All ELL staff will be re-deployed in December. My money would be on them being employed by MTR Laing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 18:42:33 GMT
That's what I said (I think!). I thought they were removing the LU signalling and putting in standard NR instead? They are. The only thing LUL will be is the Infrastructure Controller. I don't know who will signal and be the command and control for the line though??? This quote implies that LU/LO/TfL will not be signalling the ELLX between Dalston and Canal Junctions - from my reading, it implies that NR will be staffing the SCC responsible for this segment and that LU/LO/TfL would be relegated to only owning the fixed assets. Instead, I had always read that while the fixed assets will be owned by LU/LO/TfL and maintained/signalled by NR, the former would be responsible for providing the signalmen. As to command and control staff, I dont think it has been agreed yet. All ELL staff will be re-deployed in December. My money would be on them being employed by MTR Laing. This may very well be the case. Would such a decision be made after the ELL is closed? |
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Post by Colin on Oct 10, 2007 0:47:48 GMT
Reply #7 in THIS THREAD should answer most of you questions TOK. With regard to staff currently working on the East London line, they are all being re-deployed within LUL. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2007 1:10:25 GMT
Thanks for the thread - I should have found it myself  Unfortunately the original topic of the thread is still open - will there be any emergency reversing points between Whitechapel and Dalston Junction? I can't imagine that the majority of the space on the four-track NLR viaduct between Shoreditch and Dalston will be left alone, festooned with weeds and graffiti. |
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Post by North End on Oct 20, 2007 9:19:26 GMT
Thanks for the thread - I should have found it myself Unfortunately the original topic of the thread is still open - will there be any emergency reversing points between Whitechapel and Dalston Junction? I can't imagine that the majority of the space on the four-track NLR viaduct between Shoreditch and Dalston will be left alone, festooned with weeds and graffiti. There will be scissors crossovers north of Haggerston, north of Shadwell, and south of Canada Water. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2007 11:16:06 GMT
the current signalling system will be ripped out btw its not very reliable and replaced
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