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Post by happybunny on Feb 11, 2008 13:22:23 GMT
The BBC has lost Neighbours to channel five, with the switch in the show happening today.. I am now watching less than ever on the BBC and I feel as though it is the biggest rip off going. Value for money? Not for me... £135 a year just to watch Eastenders!
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Post by c5 on Feb 11, 2008 13:46:40 GMT
The BBC has lost Neighbours to channel five, with the switch in the show happening today.. I am now watching less than ever on the BBC and I feel as though it is the biggest rip off going. Value for money? Not for me... £135 a year just to watch Eastenders! You do have to say that the Beeb does commission a helluva lot of quality programming that commercial broadcasters wouldn't touch. I'm sure I read once that the brilliant Kudos produced Spooks was first put it to ITV.... Who (luckily) turned it down! They also produce niche programming that only attracts certain people, that advertisers wouldn't always be interested. The Beeb also has much higher production standards in my opinion! My view is that there are six very important letters in Britain: NHS & BBC! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2008 14:27:01 GMT
I would pay a £135 just for Doctor Who! But they are so generous they throw shows like Torchwood, Spooks, Hustle, Life On Mars, Ashes to Ashes, Little Britain, Nevermind the BuzzCocks... I could go on!  Besides, if you were really clever you'd watch EastEnders over iPlayer for free*...  *I'm sure the BBC isn't really stupid enough to let people who don't own a TV, and therefore don't pay a licence fee, use that service, surely... |
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Post by Tomcakes on Feb 11, 2008 14:37:54 GMT
The license fee pays for Radio 4, so I'm happy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2008 16:21:22 GMT
I was not a big fan of Neighbours anyway so I don't mind
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2008 16:59:56 GMT
The license fee pays for Radio 4, so I'm happy. Me too. A little oasis of sanity in an increasingly mad world. |
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Post by SE13 on Feb 11, 2008 18:21:03 GMT
The license fee pays for Radio 4, so I'm happy. And also BBC Local Radio, which I rely on for travel news, especially as the roads around here are appalling at best. One slight problem and the knock-on is astronomic! By the way, aside from live football and SoccerAM, I never watch tv. I could quite happily live without a tv, and if it wasn't for the family, I probably would! |
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Post by Tubeboy on Feb 11, 2008 18:22:27 GMT
The license fee pays for Radio 4, so I'm happy. And also BBC Local Radio, which I rely on for travel news, especially as the roads around here are appalling at best. One slight problem and the knock-on is astronomic! By the way, aside from live football and SoccerAM, I never watch tv. I could quite happily live without a tv, and if it wasn't for the family, I probably would! The only good thing about Neighbours is young Women going round in small bikini's....err, yeah! |
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Post by SE13 on Feb 11, 2008 18:32:00 GMT
And also BBC Local Radio, which I rely on for travel news, especially as the roads around here are appalling at best. One slight problem and the knock-on is astronomic! By the way, aside from live football and SoccerAM, I never watch tv. I could quite happily live without a tv, and if it wasn't for the family, I probably would! The only good thing about Neighbours is young Women going round in small bikini's....err, yeah! Far be it from me to post any images here, however our friend  has plenty to offer. I have to say that Holly Valance caught my eye...... |
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Post by donnytom on Feb 12, 2008 18:04:34 GMT
Surely the fee isn't too bad for (I think): 8 TV channels, 10 national radio stations (11 if you include R4LW), numerous local radio stations, proper Ceefax and the less-satisfying digital version, the BBC website, some programmes for S4C and other things too. Particularly when a greater portion of BBC timeslots are given to the programme than for adverts, compared to the commercial boradcasters...
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Feb 14, 2008 6:37:26 GMT
BBC timeslots are given to the programme than for adverts, compared to the commercial boradcasters... Exactly. That's half the reason like the ABC(And to an extent foxtel). Not one advert in any show. Foxtel would have only about 1 advert and even then it's only about shows on the same channel or another channel. Very rarely does a ad get played(about 1 every 10 ad breaks). Compaired to Free to air which tries to cram 50 million ads in 30 mins. I rather like our system. The Federal government gives ABC funding. So really our taxes pay for 2 TV stations, 5 National Radio stations and 50 Local radio stations. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2008 20:36:26 GMT
Surely the fee isn't too bad for (I think): 8 TV channels, 10 national radio stations (11 if you include R4LW), numerous local radio stations, proper Ceefax and the less-satisfying digital version, the BBC website, some programmes for S4C and other things too. Particularly when a greater portion of BBC timeslots are given to the programme than for adverts, compared to the commercial boradcasters... I came here to say that. Also, the classic pub statement: "£135 a year for the BBC? I can get Sky for £25 a month!" morons. And yes Neighbours went to Five, but I think spending £300million on it would have been a colossal waste of license fee payers money. Plus, Neighbours is Produced by a company called FreemantleMedia, sold worldwide by a company called FreemantleMedia, and Five is owned by a company called RTL. Who happen to own FreemantleMedia. it's a conspiracy you see! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2008 20:42:45 GMT
RTL is a German company, which owns most TV and radio stations across Austria, Luxembourg, Croatia, Spain, France...
It's [Neighbours] demise will only be replaced with something else equally as boring...
Which is one reason why I rarely watch the UK based trash. I switch on the satellite and tune into MTV DE, or Viva!
Much better!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2008 21:09:52 GMT
the picture quality has gone bad since the move to 5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 3:23:35 GMT
That will be because they're applying an effect called the 'filmic' effect when broadcasting.
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Post by Phil on Feb 16, 2008 7:39:42 GMT
*I'm sure the BBC isn't really stupid enough to let people who don't own a TV, and therefore don't pay a licence fee, use that service, surely... You've missed something here - if you watch TV on your PC you have to pay a licence fee or get procecuted - as many unsuspecting have been done recently. So if you have a PC in your abode, unless you can PROVE there is no connection to the internet by any means, the dwelling has to have a licence |
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Post by compsci on Feb 16, 2008 9:26:54 GMT
The wording I've seen indicates that you only need a TV license for a computer if it either contains a TV tuner card, or it is used to watch streamed programmes from the internet at the same time at which they are broadcast on the normal TV.
Trying to enforce that every internet connection requires a TV license round here would result in a heap of dusty university laws being found, which are at least sufficient to prevent one of their hired goons getting as far as the door to a student's room. They might have a warrant to enter the room in question, but they won't have one to enter the rest of the college to get there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 13:18:45 GMT
From the TV licensing website:
"You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. "
(my emphasis)
This doesn't seem to cover downloading programs over the internet.
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Post by Bighat on Feb 16, 2008 13:25:40 GMT
From the TV licensing website: "You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. " (my emphasis) This doesn't seem to cover downloading programs over the internet. Err..............I think the important word here is 'watch'. The source of the programme is irrelevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 16:11:28 GMT
.....my renewal demand just came today
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Post by Tomcakes on Feb 16, 2008 16:24:16 GMT
My interpretation is as compsci's.
If they asked me to buy a license as I have an internet connection, I would tell them where to insert said license demand.
Fortunately, a letter threatening to report them to the police for harassment has stopped them bugging me for now.
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Post by Alight on Feb 21, 2008 20:43:59 GMT
The switch to 'five' is not too bad and will probably benefit the UK's 5th Analogue Terrestrial Channel. However those who do not have digital TV and live in a part of the country where Five isn't avalible will loose out - if they are fans of Neighbours that is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2008 20:57:05 GMT
You've missed something here - if you watch TV on your PC you have to pay a licence fee or get procecuted - as many unsuspecting have been done recently. So if you have a PC in your abode, unless you can PROVE there is no connection to the internet by any means, the dwelling has to have a licence WRONG! From the TV licensing website: "You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. " CORRECT! If you watch it as it goes out live you need a license, but the BBC iPlayer doesn''t have live programming. Although you can watch a stream of News24 live online at rubbish quality. If you have a TV tuner card/digital card in your PC you have to have a license (and should have been informed of this when you bought it under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967) I can go into more details about TV licensing (and why they like hassling you) if needs be but I can't be bothered right now. |
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