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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 15:32:29 GMT
i was reading the newspaper the other day and it said that LU train operators were the most highly paid workers in london but how much do they get paid?
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 29, 2007 15:36:22 GMT
Not as much as a Journalist on the ES I would imagine.
Bob Crow said a few years ago, they should get 90k per year, based on the contribution they make to the economy.
Err...........about 37 now I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 16:42:43 GMT
£38,311, with instructors earning more. Not as highly paid as your average footballer, lawyer, merchant banker or IT consultant.
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Post by Phil on Jun 29, 2007 18:28:44 GMT
A newly qualified T/op earns as much as a teacher with 10 years' experience....
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Post by SE13 on Jun 30, 2007 17:05:05 GMT
I am in the wrong trade! More than twice my earnings p/a And less hours too Where do I send that application form off to, again?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 17:15:24 GMT
Yikes, me too. It’s a job I would love to do but living outside London and my current circumstances mean it would be difficult to take the plunge… at least at the moment .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 17:20:29 GMT
Not to worry peter, we have a few drivers that come in from Margate! Some that I know very well come in from Milton Keynes, Wellingborough and even as far away as Ipswich!
I went and applied without even the remotest glimmer of even making it to the 'getting an invite letter' stage!!!
Seven years later, and here we are...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 17:34:22 GMT
That’s reassuring. I have a few personal reasons for not going anywhere right at the moment but when things change I’ll be giving it a go.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 17:45:08 GMT
Aye, understand about your reservations of going, indeed I felt the same way for a while [some 9 months], leaving friends and family behind in Kent... I had to examing my conscience on a number of occasions, kept asking myse;f if i did the right thing, etc...
Still, think about moving back to kent, and commuting up, but then theres the added journey times, costs, etc!
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 30, 2007 18:22:11 GMT
Dont forget you wil have to start on the station side first, do a year as a Station assistant, that should put you in good stead for T/op.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 18:31:45 GMT
That’s no problem… as long as I didn’t get posted to Borough!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 18:37:12 GMT
That’s no problem… as long as I didn’t get posted to Borough!! ;D Looking at your location Peter, a lot of people based in Kent work on the Waterloo and London Bridge groups, travelling into London Bridge and Waterloo East. I know several people who live in the Medway Towns who travel in every day.
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 30, 2007 18:59:56 GMT
An SS I work with lives in Folkestone, another in Bedford.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:08:52 GMT
An SS I work with lives in Folkestone, another in Bedford. Do they commute every day or stay over?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:19:22 GMT
A newly qualified T/op earns as much as a teacher with 10 years' experience.... Yes but if you weight up what responsibilities a teacher has and what responsibilities a train driver has and then compare them, you will see a lot of very big differences, hence the difference in money. As for commuting, i more often than not come from worcestershire!
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Post by c5 on Jun 30, 2007 19:21:26 GMT
A newly qualified T/op earns as much as a teacher with 10 years' experience.... Yes but if you weight up what responsibilities a teacher has and what responsibilities a train driver has and then compare them, you will see a lot of very big differences, hence the difference in money. And the fact that they have even more Annual Leave than we do..... and that's saying something! ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:30:15 GMT
Yes but if you weight up what responsibilities a teacher has and what responsibilities a train driver has and then compare them, you will see a lot of very big differences, hence the difference in money. As for commuting, i more often than not come from worcestershire! Er, I get paid less than either of them and I have to ensure the safety of over 300 members of the public. Don’t get me wrong, being a T/Op is a very responsible job (probably more than mine) but I don’t think it’s that black and white! How do you find the commuting? Do you stay over in London?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:30:20 GMT
And the fact that they have even more Annual Leave than we do..... and that's saying something! ;D ;D Yeah guaranteed holidays at Christmas, Easter and in the summer. Also every weekend off, it cant be that bad really!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:30:26 GMT
A newly qualified T/op earns as much as a teacher with 10 years' experience.... Yes but if you weight up what responsibilities a teacher has and what responsibilities a train driver has and then compare them, you will see a lot of very big differences, hence the difference in money. I don't know, teachers' responsibilities are pretty serious - different from a train driver but a very responsible job. My partner is a teacher and he works d**n hard. We trust teachers to educate and care for the minds of our impressionable children - the future of our society!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 19:32:18 GMT
Er, I get paid less than either of them and I have to ensure the safety of over 300 members of the public. Don’t get me wrong, being a T/Op is a very responsible job (probably more than mine) but I don’t think it’s that black and white! But the train op is responsible for the safety of , at times, 1000+ people. How do you find the commuting? Do you stay over in London? Fine. When i have 7 days on i stop down here at my parents.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jun 30, 2007 20:35:34 GMT
Yes but if you weight up what responsibilities a teacher has and what responsibilities a train driver has and then compare them, you will see a lot of very big differences, hence the difference in money. I don't know, teachers' responsibilities are pretty serious - different from a train driver but a very responsible job. My partner is a teacher and he works d**n hard. We trust teachers to educate and care for the minds of our impressionable children - the future of our society! Indeed, they don't have the responsibility in the short term of a few hundred passengers but they do have the responsibility of teaching children. And they work, from what I hear, a hell of a lot more than just the school hours.
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Post by Phil on Jun 30, 2007 21:03:04 GMT
Yeah guaranteed holidays at Christmas, Easter and in the summer. Also every weekend off, it cant be that bad really! I did not intend to start the 'teachers have it easy (not)' debate, but, on a point of order, despite the long breaks, teachers can only go away (by definition) in school holidays. So every time away is at full (inflated) travel agent price. Not easy for a teacher with a few kids of their own. And one more fact: a large independent survey (set up by Gov't to prove teachers are lazy) found the average teacher works just over 50 hours a week. 25% more hours than the average worker (no overtime paid), which actually more than cancels out the extra holidays*. Unsurprisingly the gov't chose to ignore the survey and offered imposed on teachers a pay rise of half the current rate of inflation, saying it was a 'great deal for the education system'. Oh and to be fair, they did exactly the same to nursesNot a shock then that I was one of the many that got out some years ago once I saw what was coming......... * 25% extra means the equivalent of one week extra in every four. School terms amount to 9 months of the year, so that's 9 weeks 'extra' per year. Which brings the teachers' holidays down to 4 weeks (20 days) but that includes the 9 days of public holidays. So they lose every way you look at it.
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 30, 2007 22:06:49 GMT
Yes Peter they get the train in, except early turns on sunday, when they drive in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 22:15:39 GMT
see that i understand, but why do receptionists, switchboard ops get paid like £9 an hour when all they do is sit on thier butts when the likes of me run round like a maniac and only earn £5.44!?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 10:35:27 GMT
see that i understand, but why do receptionists, switchboard ops get paid like £9 an hour when all they do is sit on thier butts when the likes of me run round like a maniac and only earn £5.44!? What do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 10:38:36 GMT
im a sales assistant, also a junior supervisor,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 10:54:58 GMT
im a sales assistant, also a junior supervisor, You are being paid the minimum wage possible. I would look elsewhere if I was you as your employer obviously doesn't value you, there must be better paid work in other shops.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 10:57:23 GMT
just before i joined lu i worked at a timber yard which also sold building materials, obviously this involved quite a bit of specialist knowledge which the company expected me to acquire MYSELF, they had me multitasking with dealing with contract orders and running the shop all for the princely sum of £4.50 5 years back, going back to my first job ever was at burger king at heathrow tidying the tables for £3.14 , lets just say my earnings(and self esteem) have come along leaps and bounds! dstock i feel for anyone in retail i've been there and done it before and it certainly is a rubbish gig.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2007 12:19:47 GMT
I liked working in retail as it sets you up for a lot that could happen in the future. You deal with so many different situations and people. I don't think that experience can be matched. However it pays rubbish and really does tire you out!
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 1, 2007 13:08:00 GMT
see that i understand, but why do receptionists, switchboard ops get paid like £9 an hour when all they do is sit on thier butts when the likes of me run round like a maniac and only earn £5.44!? Because its the going rate?! I dont like chuggers [charity muggers] some of whom are getting as much as £13 per hour, whereas some people are slogging their guts out in a factory for a fraction of that.
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