Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 0:31:25 GMT
Hi everyone, wondering if anyone could answer this question for me, Phil could possibly field it.... Tomorrow my science teacher is keeping my whole class in to do revision before our modular exam, however it will take the whole of lunch break. 1) There are no opportunities to buy lunch at break at school, this is reserved for the year 7's and 8's, I also can't eat a packed lunch at this time due to lack of seating... 2) We are not allowed to bring food into the lab. So, from now until 3:20PM tomorrow, there's no eating for me.. Do schools have a right to deprive me (for want of a better word...it sounds petty) of a meal? My mum said she would complain if I don't get any form of food. Sorry if it's an insignificant question, I'd just like to know where I stand?
|
|
|
Post by version3point1 on Mar 8, 2007 0:37:40 GMT
Totally wrong. Rebel. That's what I did when my teachers kept me from my lunch break against my will. Not completely the same scenario, but just before I left education, we'd recently opened a new school canteen. The queues for lunch were so long though (900+ hungry mouths to feed, plus a school faculty of 100+), that they couldn't meet the demand for the 1325-1415 lunch break. However, the staff had to let all those in the queue go in for what they queued for, and as a result, people were still being served and/or eating by 1525. Seriously though, schools and teachers are in a duty of care, and I'm sure Phil will tell you exactly the same thing. So you can have your cake lunch, and eat it, darling.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 0:42:02 GMT
Thanks Anne, the dinner hall was very much like that recently when they installed the new Jamie Oliver menu, many young children were going hungry.
Surely it's a basic need of astudent to have 1 meal to keep them going throughout the day?
I don't want to not turn up as he's a strict teacher and will keep me behind afterschool
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 0:55:35 GMT
They must provide 30 mins meal break - part of human rights thingymajig IIRC.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 0:59:37 GMT
The max i'll get is 15 minutes, and that's if i'm extremely lucky
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 2:55:48 GMT
There are medical conditions that require a person to eat at a set time, such as diabetes and hypoglycemia (both blood sugar issues). There are many others. If the school stops someone from taking food when needed they can be held accountable.
|
|
|
Post by ttran on Mar 8, 2007 4:45:37 GMT
Surely it's a basic need of astudent to have 1 meal to keep them going throughout the day? Don't you eat breakfast and dinner? Also, lunch breaks from 1325-1415 Anne? Lucky mob you are in England! We get half an hour, but that suits me just fine.
|
|
Chris M
Global Moderator
Forum Quizmaster
Always happy to receive quiz ideas and pictures by email or PM
Posts: 19,772
|
Post by Chris M on Mar 8, 2007 9:07:32 GMT
At middle school we used to get an hour and 10 minutes, at upper school we got an hour (57 minutes on a Monday*). I can't remember what I got at primary school.
*For the first three years I was there the school ran a strange timetable where there were 6 50-minute lessons a day Tuesday to Friday but 7 slightly shorter (43 minutes?) lessons a day on Mondays. From the year I started 6th form they changed to a two-week timetable with 6 lessons a day all week.
|
|
Phil
In memoriam
RIP 23-Oct-2018
Posts: 9,473
|
Post by Phil on Mar 8, 2007 13:02:05 GMT
Sorry, only just dropped in on this one. Situation is that the school MUST allow you to get food and eat it during the day. This means you MUST be able to go to the canteen (unless warned in advance) and MUST be allowed time to eat (and go to toilet).
When we ran lunchtime detentions (punishment, not revision!!) it started 15 mins into lunchbreak for that very reason. So Yes, you have an absolute right to food. Any teacher forbidding it risks serious legal consequences when parents complain.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 13:19:19 GMT
At my school (at least, when I go), they don't really care about whether we don't get any food....
And to really take the waters, the teachers themselves go to the canteen, grab their food and take it back to the classroom!
|
|
Phil
In memoriam
RIP 23-Oct-2018
Posts: 9,473
|
Post by Phil on Mar 8, 2007 14:11:36 GMT
And to really take the waters, the teachers themselves go to the canteen, grab their food and take it back to the classroom! Shame on them!! (mind you, I was not averse to taking mugs of coffee into science labs when I was teaching...... ;D ;D ;D)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 14:47:27 GMT
;D ;D ;D
Good on you Phil!!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 14:47:48 GMT
Had that barmy rule at my secondary school, no eating in classes, but nothing stopping us from having a cup of Hot Choc halfway through a lesson!
|
|
|
Post by amershamsi on Mar 8, 2007 14:56:33 GMT
i remember the time when our stand-in Biology teacher arrived 15 minutes late, kept the whole class 10 minutes after he had done an hour's teaching (the length of the lesson) for making the lesson overrun by 15 minutes. He then, gave the few of us who hadn't done our homework a task to do, as a detention (stapling or something) and then went off for lunch and forgot about us until nearly the end of lunch (so about half an hour). There was no warning, nor anytime to eat lunch. If we had had a half an hour det starting at the beginning of lunch - no problems, however his tardiness and then blaming us for his tardiness meant that the half an hour we would have had became 5 minutes.
Does it apply to universities? In my first semester I had 0900-1730 on Fridays with no break, other than the standard 10/20 minute breaks between lectures to allow movement between lecture slots and no break in my triple slot labs (1355-1635) so my breaks were 0945-0955, 1040-1100, 1145-1155, 1240-1300, 1345-1355 and 1635-1645. We ate, breaking all the rules on eating in lecture theatres, in our 1300 lecture.
|
|
Chris M
Global Moderator
Forum Quizmaster
Always happy to receive quiz ideas and pictures by email or PM
Posts: 19,772
|
Post by Chris M on Mar 8, 2007 15:00:43 GMT
(mind you, I was not averse to taking mugs of coffee into science labs when I was teaching...... ;D ;D ;D) That's fine as long as know you have enough control over the class that things wouldn't be added to your cup while your back was turned! Having met you I doubt you had trouble keeping order, but I've experienced teachers who couldn't. I've also had a couple of teachers who could silence an entire hall full of kids with a single look.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 15:02:30 GMT
If your teachers refuse to see reason then ask your mum to write to/call the headteacher and insist that you are given a break at lunchtime. (And remind her to add on walking time! And state that if any teachers dare try to talk to you during your lunch then you will be obliged to start it all over again!)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 15:04:09 GMT
If you fail to do the work asked, you could always say you couldnae concentrate due to lack of sustenance in the gut!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2007 16:10:48 GMT
Hi folks, just got home.
I queued up for lunch at break but the queue ws so long by the time I got anywhere near the fron the bell had gone.
We stayed in at lunchtime, where he cracked jokes alot of the time, which annoyed me, as I hadn't turned up to watch a stand up show, I was there because I apparently had a 'big' exam coming up.
So we go through the mock papers...answer some questions and depart, so I quickly run with my mate to the ice cream van ( the only form of food left at that time) and guess what? about 3/4 of the way there and the bell goes.
Just got home, put my tea in and grabbed a chocolate biscuit.
Can you really blame me?
|
|
|
Post by chris on Mar 8, 2007 17:15:24 GMT
So you got no food? Ouch.
Good luck in your exam mate!
|
|
|
Post by Tomcakes on Mar 8, 2007 18:18:44 GMT
We have lunch break from 12.00 to 13.15. If anything is being organised over lunch, it must fit the guidelines - if it starts before 12.20, it must finish by 12.50. Things may go on until 13.10 provided they start after 12.20. This is such that whatever happens, it can't take up all of lunch break.
|
|