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Post by Chris M on Feb 17, 2007 23:34:36 GMT
Although this video isn't of LU or indeed any railway in Britain, it is very sobering when you realise just how close the young girl came to being hit. It is for this reason that feel it important to share it. I did not take this video, and I not know who did. It was linked to on the West Somerset Railway email group I read, but the person who posted it there was only able to host it for 48 hours due to space requirements on their internet site, I have therfore copied it to my site and converted it into other formats as well for the greatest ease of viewing. |
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Post by Colin D on Feb 18, 2007 0:16:28 GMT
That is a truly frightening video Chris, talk about seconds away...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 0:23:09 GMT
Yeah, very frightening... I bet the driver was a bit shaken...
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Post by Chris W on Feb 18, 2007 8:24:01 GMT
Having looking at the footage a few times now it appears that there are numerous people walking across the tracks/line-side. As I understand it (correct me if I'm inaccurate here), in countries such as India or Pakistan, commuters virtually hold onto the external doorway handles of overcrowded peak/rush-hour trains or even lay on the roof. It is estimated that 60-70% of railway accidents in India are attributed to human error, which is scary considering that its the world second largest railway network (approx 60,000+km). *Some say that we're too safety conscious (re interpretation & use of rules/regulations), however many parts of the Asia/Pacific safety is hardly even part of the language. * Source: www.indiatogether.com/economy/transport/railsafe0902.htm (the web-page is a few years old, but I expects things haven't changed much) |
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Post by Phil on Feb 18, 2007 8:41:19 GMT
I doubt if the driver even thought about it. Apart from his speed he must have seen that sort of thing so many times he would have become immune. Just the same when I was driving buses with cats and dogs: car drivers tend to brake to miss them but we were told not to. If they get out of the way, fine - if not you hit'em.
Don't get me wrong. I know people are worth infinfitely more than animals (despite what the animal rights maniacs say). But if they are in your way and you can't do anything about it, then you develop a 'resistance' to the whole situation, just like my pal who's had 4 one-unders on NR.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 9:18:52 GMT
There was a related TV program on one of the Sky channels about trains in India.
They rode in a cab of a female train driver. They commented on this very problem, people walking along the tracks and crossing tracks at the station - notice the station actually had a bridge connecting the platforms.
The drivers attitude was if one person wanted to be killed, so what! The passengers on her train wanted to get somewhere and the passengers where her priority. If anybody was stupid enough to cross in the path if a train, then that's there problem.
Could you imagine the H&S nuts over hear reacting if that became UK policy ;D
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Post by chris on Feb 18, 2007 9:56:29 GMT
If say a Pendolino (sp?) driver over here hit someone doing 125mph (the train going that speed, not the person!) would they bother stopping or just go on to the next station? Although given the stopping distances they probably would end up there anyway!
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Post by ttran on Feb 18, 2007 10:28:15 GMT
I have a sneeeaking suspicion they'd stop Chris. To carry on would probably be classed as Manslaughter rather than accident I would assume.
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Post by Phil on Feb 18, 2007 10:45:15 GMT
If say a Pendolino (sp?) driver over here hit someone doing 125mph (the train going that speed, not the person!) would they bother stopping or just go on to the next station? Although given the stopping distances they probably would end up there anyway! You don't always know, especially in the dark. At the risk of getting gruesome, one of the 4 my pal had was like that. The first he knew was when a stationman came up to him and said 'You'd better look at the front of your train driver'. I won't describe the rest but the train had to be taken OOS immediately and the police called with black bags. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 11:37:07 GMT
Strange you should mention that, because a rep from the India Railways, came to the UK and said we could learn from them. Does that mean we will see people sitting on top of t' cars?
Sounds horrid that event, Phil.
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Post by Phil on Feb 18, 2007 12:43:59 GMT
Sounds horrid that event, Phil. Since it was his third, he just shrugged his shoulders and walked away. Booked on as usual next day. Some can do that, others can't. Depends on personality. |
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Post by nexus6 on Feb 18, 2007 13:24:48 GMT
She had to jump over the two running rails to get across. What if she had slipped or hesitated before jumping? I dread to think.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 14:38:13 GMT
Since it was his third, he just shrugged his shoulders and walked away. Booked on as usual next day. Some can do that, others can't. Depends on personality. Someone I know of, has been unlucky and has had seven one- unders in 11 years. He just laughs about it now and takes the full whack of sick leave! But still, not nice having a one under... Had two near misses myself, second one was worse. |
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Post by stanmorek on Feb 18, 2007 17:47:42 GMT
Seen that video before - still unbelievable eveytime. Been involved in a few incidents myself.
We're taught to report them as a "near hit" now. I don't go on the track during traffic hours as much now but on the Met you could hear the A-stocks clanking towards you from a good distance. The Chiltern service however was relatively quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 19:59:52 GMT
You don't always know, especially in the dark. At the risk of getting gruesome, one of the 4 my pal had was like that. The first he knew was when a stationman came up to him and said 'You'd better look at the front of your train driver'. I won't describe the rest but the train had to be taken OOS immediately and the police called with black bags. Heard the same story happening on the Bullet Train before... Wow, that video is disturbing - especially the train being a high-speed locomotive. Must have being doing around 60mph! If you say the UK is obsessed about safety, what about the Japanese t/ops talking to themselves all day? ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 20:16:18 GMT
If you say the UK is obsessed about safety, what about the Japanese t/ops talking to themselves all day? ;D Believe me when I say we do the same.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2007 13:32:00 GMT
I didn't mean the PA announcements! ;D
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not saying the UK system is unsafe. Just that there are more stringent systems for those anti-H and S people to point their fingers at, like the Asia/Pacific region, oh the irony! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2007 17:32:48 GMT
Seen that video before - still unbelievable eveytime. Been involved in a few incidents myself. We're taught to report them as a "near hit" now. I don't go on the track during traffic hours as much now but on the Met you could hear the A-stocks clanking towards you from a good distance. The Chiltern service however was relatively quiet. Yep, they do sneak up on you if you're not careful. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2007 18:14:42 GMT
Yep, i have seen this before. Well it just shows you what happens when countries are lacking proper railway safety measures.
I am sure at the end of that platform it has an arrow and a message saying: This way to such and such!
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