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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2005 21:37:27 GMT
The new R-160 stock on the NYC subway has an innovative and interesting feature. The "FIND", otherwise known as the Flexible Information and Notice Display, of which a picture from the excellent nycsubway.org is here www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45348Recent new stock on the NYC subway had route maps with lights that light up for each station to show where the train is stopping. This is quite useful, as there are many express and skip-stop services on the NYC subway, which can be very confusing for the non New Yorker. Here is an example www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3649As the R-160 stock will be assigned to different lines, then the existing route maps would not be suitable. Thus this new flexible display had been developed, which can be used on all routes. It shows (in order), train route (e.g A train), next stop, next 10 stops, other stops (not too sure if this is the penultimate 5 stops or important stations), and terminus. Although I think this is a good idea, I could see it being confusing for non-regular travellers who need to travel to stops between the 10th, and last 6 stations, for which the stops may not be displayed. On the other hand it's better than nothing, or just train route, next station, and terminus information. What is everone elses opinions on this new type of display? Would it have any use in London where most trains run all stops services? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2005 22:09:02 GMT
From a passenger POV, for London I think it's more trouble than it's worth since trains are generally all stops (and on the Met the stations being stopped at are announced or put up on monitors at Baker Street anyway) , but for the NYC subway its applications could be potentially beneficial for the reasons you stated.
The only scenario it may be a useful idea in is the Met IMO, but with the common S Stock being introduced that means this system probably wouldn't be introduced I suspect.
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Post by DWS on Dec 14, 2005 0:01:09 GMT
From a passenger POV, for London I think it's more trouble than it's worth since trains are generally all stops (and on the Met the stations being stopped at are announced or put up on monitors at Baker Street anyway) , but for the NYC subway its applications could be potentially beneficial for the reasons you stated. The only scenario it may be a useful idea in is the Met IMO, but with the common S Stock being introduced that means this system probably wouldn't be introduced I suspect. As the new S stock is going to be used on the District, Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith & Cicty Lines, may be some type of LED Line Map could be fitted to the new Stock, then trains could be used on any Sub Surface Line with out having to change the paper type car maps which are used now. |
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Post by q8 on Dec 14, 2005 1:57:48 GMT
That type of display would be very useful on LUL stock as an aid to the profoundly deaf or hard of hearing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2005 7:38:37 GMT
What is this new S stock? Any photos available?
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Post by compsci on Dec 14, 2005 9:07:50 GMT
Having the arrival times for the next few stations fixed at one minute intervals looks like a bit of a missed opportunity (even if they timings really are like that in NYC). Apart from obviously needing variable timings to cope with the variable distances on LU, it would be useful for keeping anyone who is hard of hearing informed of delays to their journey.
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Post by setttt on Dec 14, 2005 10:27:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2005 15:34:10 GMT
Bloody hell! If it really comes out like it looks on that computer generated version - that'll be great ;d
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Post by setttt on Dec 14, 2005 16:17:34 GMT
Bloody hell! If it really comes out like it looks on that computer generated version - that'll be great ;d So you'd rather have an S stock than an A stock on the Amersham fasts?  If those impressions are anything to go by, those seats will be less than comfortable! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2005 19:50:35 GMT
Well...... i just saw the exterior shots Seth - i can't comment on the seats  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2005 20:50:02 GMT
It should be noted that a few of those artists impressions are of the new Victoria Line stock, not the S-stock. The S-stock design is still not finalised just yet, but it wont be too long. |
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Post by zman on Dec 18, 2005 13:52:04 GMT
The new R-160 stock on the NYC subway has an innovative and interesting feature. The "FIND", otherwise known as the Flexible Information and Notice Display, of which a picture from the excellent nycsubway.org is here www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45348Recent new stock on the NYC subway had route maps with lights that light up for each station to show where the train is stopping. This is quite useful, as there are many express and skip-stop services on the NYC subway, which can be very confusing for the non New Yorker. Here is an example www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3649As the R-160 stock will be assigned to different lines, then the existing route maps would not be suitable. Thus this new flexible display had been developed, which can be used on all routes. It shows (in order), train route (e.g A train), next stop, next 10 stops, other stops (not too sure if this is the penultimate 5 stops or important stations), and terminus. Although I think this is a good idea, I could see it being confusing for non-regular travellers who need to travel to stops between the 10th, and last 6 stations, for which the stops may not be displayed. On the other hand it's better than nothing, or just train route, next station, and terminus information. In that case, the last 6 stops were shown. It wouldn't be practical for all of the line's stops to be shown on the FIND, especially when you consider that the A line, where the R160's are supposed to go first, during overnight hours makes 58 stops. |
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