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Post by Dmitri on Aug 28, 2005 13:11:32 GMT
I'm glad to inform you that a new Metro system has opened yesterday, 27.08.2005, in Kazan. Currently it has 7.7 km of track with 5 stations.
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Post by zman on Aug 28, 2005 14:01:41 GMT
Sadly, after only one day in service, their trains now look like this ;D:
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 28, 2005 18:28:59 GMT
Sadly, after only one day in service, their trains now look like this ;D No, not that bad ... here is the first photo gallery: www.rosmetrostroy.ru/openkazan.htm (more later - watch this space ).
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Post by Colin on Aug 28, 2005 20:11:40 GMT
Nice pictures - very different to our system!
I'm wondering though, how are the trains powered, as there is nothing obvious?
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Post by compsci on Aug 28, 2005 20:48:25 GMT
It almost looks like one of the running rails has a slot in it. Some sort of collector touching a conductor inside the rail perhaps?
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 29, 2005 6:25:35 GMT
I'm wondering though, how are the trains powered, as there is nothing obvious? Standard xUSSR system: 3 rd rail with bottom contact, 825 V DC. The current rail is close to the platform, so you need to stay on the edge and look down to see it (here is an outdoor picture where current rail is seen more clearly: www.metro.ru/cars/all/08.jpg).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2005 6:45:27 GMT
Wow, everything is so clean!
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Post by igelkotten on Aug 29, 2005 11:12:39 GMT
Oooohhhhh! What a cute widdle one!!! ;D
Nice to see that the Metro is inaugurated! They have been working on it for quite a while now, haven't they?
What rolling stock are they using? It looks like some kind of 81-720 version, is that correct? If so, are they using the russian thyristor control package, or have they actually realised the proposals to fit the 81-720 with an ONIX drive?
I'll give an extra toot on my train whistle tonight for Kazan!
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 29, 2005 13:37:45 GMT
They have been working on it for quite a while now, haven't they? IIRC about 5 years. They are 81-553.3/554.3/555.3 (DM/NDM/T) cars built is St. Petersburg by "Metrovagonmash", traction package is from "Skoda". Currently, 4-car trains are used, formed as DM-NDM-T-DM. More photos of the trains: vagon.metro.ru/types/81-553_3.html and kazantransport.by.ru/metro/gal-trai.htmThanks . BTW, here are captions for the photo gallery (photos by Andrey Surikov): 1) a lonely "M" letter above the entrance to the "Kremlyovskaya" station with Kazan Kremlin serving as the background; 2) entrance from the Kremlin side; 3) entrance from the Bulak side - not decorated yet; 4) "Kremlyovskaya" station - first train is ready to depart; 5) the first service train departed at 14:45; 6) "Kremlyovskaya" station; 7) first train has arrived at "Gorki" station; 8) illuminate "Gorki" station sign - looks superb; 9) some more work is needed; 10) interval clocks weren't envisaged, and even usual clocks aren't present on all stations; 11) track wall scheme; 12) station master assistant, "Gorki" station; 13) "Gorki" station. And even more: "Kremlyovskaya" station gallery: www.livejournal.com/users/to_the_future/115892.html#cutid1ventilation shafts: www.livejournal.com/users/to_the_future/116070.html#cutid1"Ametyevo" station: without.ru/amet2.jpg.
A bit of trivia: Kazan celebrates its 1000 th anniversary this year.
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 29, 2005 19:16:09 GMT
Wow, everything is so clean! 'Cause our fellow punters haven't brought in any rubbish yet ;D. 7 more photos on www.rosmetrostroy.ru/openkazan.htm - "Sukonnaya Sloboda" station (14th through 20th). Signs are in two languages - Russian and Tatar.
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Post by igelkotten on Aug 30, 2005 0:26:30 GMT
Thanks for the interesting links! Looking at this interesting photo of the bogies: kazantransport.by.ru:81/metro/ra04.jpg, it seems as if they have (again!) avoided any form of air suspension, and only use coil springs and yaw dampers. Is this correct? Do you happen to know if the axles are flexibly mounted in the bogieframes, or if it is a stiff mounting?
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Post by q8 on Aug 30, 2005 7:57:07 GMT
Hedgehog what is your opnion on air suspension on railway vehicles?
I personally still prefer the old leaf and coil springs. The ride was 'firm' but not uncomfortable.
The 'rubber ball' was/is similar. Air bags I definitely don't like. They are like riding on a pogo stick on a trampoline.
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Post by Colin on Aug 30, 2005 21:55:42 GMT
Standard xUSSR system: 3 rd rail with bottom contact, 825 V DC. The current rail is close to the platform, so you need to stay on the edge and look down to see it Right on the edge of the platform - safe then!! ;D
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 31, 2005 6:34:50 GMT
it seems as if they have (again!) avoided any form of air suspension, and only use coil springs and yaw dampers. Is this correct? Do you happen to know if the axles are flexibly mounted in the bogieframes, or if it is a stiff mounting? AFAIK bogies are of standard design: two-stage suspension using coil springs. We have air suspension on "Yauza" and "Skif" trains, and I'd say I didn't like it: the ride is stiff, and you can feel every joint with your feet...
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Post by Dmitri on Aug 31, 2005 7:19:02 GMT
Right on the edge of the platform - safe then!! ;D It has an insulating (wooden or plastic) cover strong enough to be used as seat. And standing on the edge of the platform isn't a good practice anyway . Some more photos at www.rosmetrostroy.ru/openkazan.htm: 21-26: "Ploschad Gabdully Tukaya" ("Gabdulla Tukay Square").
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Post by greatplum on Aug 31, 2005 10:49:22 GMT
Gosh, that looks like an impressive system...
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Post by igelkotten on Aug 31, 2005 11:00:45 GMT
AFAIK bogies are of standard design: two-stage suspension using coil springs. We have air suspension on "Yauza" and "Skif" trains, and I'd say I didn't like it: the ride is stiff, and you can feel every joint with your feet... You're weird! The thing I am curious about is how you maintain the car floor at a reasonable level to the platform, irrespective of loading.
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Post by Dmitri on Sept 5, 2005 11:03:04 GMT
You're weird! You should have known that . I must admit I don't know... BTW, photo gallery ( www.rosmetrostroy.ru/openkazan.htm) is now complete, with photos of "Ametyevo" station added. Here are captions for all the photos: 1) a lonely "M" letter above the entrance to the "Kremlyovskaya" station with Kazan Kremlin serving as the background; 2) entrance from the Kremlin side; 3) entrance from the Bulak side - not decorated yet; 4) "Kremlyovskaya" station - first train is ready to depart; 5) the first service train departed at 14:45; 6) "Kremlyovskaya" station; 7) first train has arrived at "Gorki" station; 8) illuminate "Gorki" station sign - looks superb; 9) some more work is needed; 10) interval clocks weren't envisaged, and even usual clocks aren't present on all stations; 11) track wall scheme; 12) station master assistant, "Gorki" station; 13) "Gorki" station; 14) "Sukonnaya slobolda" station entrance; 15) "Sukonnaya slobolda" station; 16) "Sukonnaya slobolda" station; 17) "Sukonnaya slobolda" station - track wall; 18) all signs are in two languages - this one in Tatar; 19) cast iron mouldings; 20) light signs; 21) "Sukonnaya slobolda" station; 22) "Ploschad Gabdully Tukaya" ("Gabdulla Tukay Square") station; 23) "Ploschad Gabdully Tukaya" station; 24) all mosaics on the station are different; 25) "Ploschad Gabdully Tukaya" written in Tatar; 26) "Vodyanaya" mosaic; 27) "Ploschad Gabdully Tukaya" entrance in evening 27.08; 28) "Ametyevo" station - general view; 29) "Ametyevo" station - plarform; 30) "Ametyevo" station; 31) current rail hasn't been covered yet; 32) a train departs towards the "Gorki" station"; 33) style resembles "Vorobyovy gory"; 34) main line; 35) doorway to the upper level passage; 36) passage. BTW, a construction of northbound and southbound extensions is planned to commence shortly.
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