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Post by CSLR on Aug 10, 2006 9:36:07 GMT
You photographers are the ideal folk to have around if YOU see someone acting in a dodgy or furtive way. If you do, GET HIS PICTURE as it could be vital evidence if your suspicions were confirmed and he was indeed 'casing the joint' . In this instance, I have no hesitation to use a recognised form of shouting and I offer no apology for its use. If taking a picture of someone who you think may be a terrorist PLEASE DO IT DISCRETELY. These people should be considered EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and will have no hesitation in doing anything to you or anyone else that might stop them from carrying out whatever plan they have. Your first priority is to attempt to prevent something happening. That is best done by always being aware of your surroundings and by alerting (and knowing how to alert) others who are in a position to act. WHEN DOING ANYTHING, ALWAYS CONSIDER YOUR OWN SAFETY. You cannot help anyone if you are put out of action. |
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 15:04:11 GMT
Wise words Cslr. Thank god the security services foiled this plan. If it was "successful" the "results" would be too dire to contemplate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 15:13:48 GMT
yeah, i hated the people on Sky News that were saying things like 'this has ruined my holiday' and 'we would be on holiday now if it weren't for these petty checks'.
Those people obviously don't realise that if these 10 jumbos were attacked, something like 5000 people would be killed.
Ignorant.
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Post by Phil on Aug 10, 2006 16:49:22 GMT
yeah, i hated the people on Sky News that were saying things like 'this has ruined my holiday' and 'we would be on holiday now if it weren't for these petty checks'. Same on BBC. It's called 'balanced reporting'. You have to find at least one person with an opposing view to the norm or it's called 'bias'. Doesn't matter if only one is against and all the rest are supportive. The lone view always gets a voice (in all matters) Stops before it becomes a rant |
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 10, 2006 16:52:53 GMT
BBC, like any news media [apart from substandard] have an opposing view to the norm. Sticks out like a sore thumb who they support though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 16:57:01 GMT
I was listening to the radio [Capital Gold] and heard an interview at Heathrow with some travellers upset thier liquid medication had to be conficated... Found myself saying "Well, the precaution is for your own safety. What would you'd rather have?"
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Post by Tom on Aug 10, 2006 17:01:48 GMT
I was listening to the radio [Capital Gold] and heard an interview at Heathrow with some travellers upset thier liquid medication had to be conficated... Found myself saying "Well, the precaution is for your own safety. What would you'd rather have?" Well in the case of the liquid stuff I carry, I'd rather not be dead. Somehow the concept of Anaphylaxis half way over the north sea doesn't appeal. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 18:01:10 GMT
Taking photos at Heathrow's stations, or loitering on overbridges near the HEX at Paddington (you know who you are  ) is probably not advised at the moment. LU photo permits are free to obtain as long as you stress that it is for amateur photography, and I would advise the use of one if you may be taking anything other than what could be perceived as tourist shots. |
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Post by SE13 on Aug 13, 2006 8:18:10 GMT
So, in theory, the pictures I took on my camera phone of the mural at Arsenal Tube were not allowed to be taken, and technically I broke the rules?
Slightly off topic, I know, but can someone clarify this please.
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 13, 2006 8:36:13 GMT
So, in theory, the pictures I took on my camera phone of the mural at Arsenal Tube were not allowed to be taken, and technically I broke the rules? No, not at all, nobody has said anything about photography being banned (though no doubt they will start kicking up about it). Just that at particular places, staff would be more likely to be looking out for it. |
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Post by chris on Aug 13, 2006 8:51:53 GMT
I have little idea what's going on! I had read headlines from English newspapers but nothing else. Got the airport and read a few quickly made up signs saying "No liquid like beverages, sun cream, toothpaste etc to be carried in hold". Nearly all the English people were hurridly trying to make room to fit wine in their suitcases! It was only at the mercy of the airline they didnt get smashed! Everyones bag got searched, but I think i got off fairly lightly as the delay was no more than about 20 mins and we were allowed hand luggage.
The people who were complaining about a holiday I can kind of understand. Travelling is pretty stressful with families, we were told exactly what was going on and armed police and soliders aren't exactly great at making you feel better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2006 8:58:55 GMT
If you are taking "touristy pics", as you were, then you are fine as long as you don't use a tripod or a flash (like I saw a member of the New Zealand U19 Underwater Hockey Team doing yesterday at Waterloo!). If you are taking pics of the infrastructure, particularly where you may be loitering to get your photo, then getting a photo permit is advised. If are going to be hanging around on a station for some time, then it is a good idea to let the station supervisor know first.
Non-commercial photography on the tube is not illegal, but it seems to be TfLs policy to not allow photography with a permit at present. However, under the terrorism act, you can be stopped if the police think you are acting suspiciously.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 13, 2006 9:40:10 GMT
I spent a good deal of time photographing on LU/mainline on wednesday and Thursday and all through that time I had only two comments. The first was that I was not allowed to take photographs of the ticket office at Harrow and Wealdstone (the rest of the station was apprently fine  ), and one of the staff at Aldgate East told/reminded me that I couldn't use the flash. One of the people at Surrey Quays was so involved in ranting about something to the other person on the gateline that I'm not certain that it would have registered with them I had a camera though! Chris |
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Post by SE13 on Aug 13, 2006 10:27:48 GMT
If you are taking "touristy pics", as you were, then you are fine as long as you don't use a tripod or a flash (like I saw a member of the New Zealand U19 Underwater Hockey Team doing yesterday at Waterloo!). If you are taking pics of the infrastructure, particularly where you may be loitering to get your photo, then getting a photo permit is advised. If are going to be hanging around on a station for some time, then it is a good idea to let the station supervisor know first. Non-commercial photography on the tube is not illegal, but it seems to be TfLs policy to not allow photography with a permit at present. However, under the terrorism act, you can be stopped if the police think you are acting suspiciously. I don't tend to take touristy pictures, because I'm a Londoner anyway, however the mural pictures were for me to share with my children, who are fascinated by the idea of trains running under the ground, and by Daddy's obsession with Arsenal! |
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) is probably not advised at the moment. LU photo permits are free to obtain as long as you stress that it is for amateur photography, and I would advise the use of one if you may be taking anything other than what could be perceived as tourist shots. 
), and one of the staff at Aldgate East told/reminded me that I couldn't use the flash. One of the people at Surrey Quays was so involved in ranting about something to the other person on the gateline that I'm not certain that it would have registered with them I had a camera though!
