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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2006 17:19:24 GMT
anyone living in the london area might be able to get upto 24 meg broadband otherwise known as ADSL2+ for further details look here www.bethere.co.uk
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2006 18:09:42 GMT
What would someone do with all that bandwidth?
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Post by oliver on Jan 11, 2006 18:40:36 GMT
You would hardly ever use it - I doubt web sites will even be able to serve you your full potential even if your downloading a massive file!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2006 18:46:39 GMT
and that costs how much?!?!?! As you've said - who would really want it??
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Post by allchange on Jan 11, 2006 19:06:23 GMT
1) Its a new company, I think. I've never heard of them! I severely doubt that 24megs is possible, its probably a scam, or, more than likely, its saying "one day you may get 24megs, if you sign up with us, but we can't promise you it" and the speed you get will probably be 2megs.
2) ADSL+2 is currently being trialed by BT and there broadband services. IF it is true that you can get 24megs on ADSL+2, then I'm sure it wont be long before BT start upgrading their packages, more than likely at no extra cost, plus you know they're reliable!
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 11, 2006 19:13:37 GMT
They'll probarbly put a rather stupid cap on bandwith and give a slow upload speed (24mbits could be useful for serving stuff).
BTW "24 meg" doesn't mean 24 megabytes per second, it means 24 megabits per second, which is, err 3 megabytes per second. Advertising thing, give it in mbits, looks bigger and so many users think it's bytes.
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Post by Colin on Jan 12, 2006 2:28:19 GMT
I wouldn't be too quick in putting this idea to bed. The company in question had a competition in association with the Metro newspaper yesterday - the prize being a two year subscription - so it would appear it's all above board Sorry I lobbed the paper before I saw this thread & Metro's link on their site is not working now, so I can't show you all what I saw .
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Post by compsci on Jan 12, 2006 9:56:23 GMT
This is in fact completely above board, and is something BT have been testing with their employees for several months.
There are however several caveats:
1. The copper wiring from the exchange to your phone socket needs to be pretty much perfect, as even small soldering errors, which do nothing noticable to the telephone, can degrade the signal enough to cause problems.
2. Like ADSL, the signal is degraded with distance from the exchange. 24Mb is theoretically available up to 1km from the exchange.
3. Combining 1 and 2, you need to like pretty much next door to the exchange to get 24Mb. Do you know the location of your telephone exchange?
4. As mentioned, it's likely that the server at the other end will become the bottleneck. I have a peak download speed somewhere in the region of 40Mb, but there are few places outside the university where that is actually noticable.
5. Unless you are downloading large files regularly, can you actually do sufficient things at once to go anywhere near saturating such a fast connection?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2006 19:41:19 GMT
I'm about to go broadband myself - have decided on the BT 2Mb package, only £2 more than I'm paying at the moment. Tho, there is one thing which bugs me; Usage allowance is 1Gb. I guess this implies if youre downloading things like audio files???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2006 20:12:09 GMT
T/op 92, BT Broadband offers me and my family no problems at all - its a 2Mb and it works fine and dont worry about the 1Gb - unless you're downloading huge files, its not a problem at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2006 20:22:40 GMT
T/op 92, BT Broadband offers me and my family no problems at all - its a 2Mb and it works fine and dont worry about the 1Gb - unless you're downloading huge files, its not a problem at all. thanks Joe S. I've just worked that out myself. Considering the average audio file is 3mb, thats some serious potential I will have available...
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Post by traveller1030 on Jan 16, 2006 1:35:25 GMT
can you actually do sufficient things at once to go anywhere near saturating such a fast connection? Hell yes!!! Downloads of OS Distros, apps, game demos, VoIP, with a liberal dose of online gaming. I could probably saturate a backbone given half a chance!!! Whilst I'm encouraged by the speeds claimed by Be I am also fully aware of the degradation argument put forward by compsci. My local exchange is getting kitted out next month and I'm thinking of going with Be to test them out and also taste working with ADSL2+ for the first time. I probably live at the outer edge of a 1km radius of the LLU equipment, and very rarely have line problems, but I'm still being pragmatic about it by expecting no more than 16Mbit downstream. You cannot expect such bandwidth over that distance of copper. My calculations are more fag-packet than switch cabinet but I still make that twice what other LLU operators are currently offering - bring it on!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2006 23:07:50 GMT
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Post by q8 on Jan 18, 2006 1:26:47 GMT
district line drivers read newspapers do they ? , i wasnt aware that they contained that many pictures MIIIIAAAAOOOOOWWWW!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2006 1:51:16 GMT
district line drivers read newspapers do they ? , i wasnt aware that they contained that many pictures MIIIIAAAAOOOOOWWWW!!!!! One thing that hasn't changed from your time is the line rivalries
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Post by q8 on Jan 18, 2006 3:48:54 GMT
One thing that hasn't changed from your time is the line rivalries Sadly that is true but I will never understand why though?
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Post by Colin on Jan 18, 2006 8:01:21 GMT
One thing that hasn't changed from your time is the line rivalries Sadly that is true but I will never understand why though? A bit of friendly banter never hurt anyone! district line drivers read newspapers do they ? , i wasnt aware that they contained that many pictures The Metro is quite colourful actually! Anyway - I was 'perusing' it while waiting for all you picc 'drivers' to get out of the local platform at Acton ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 18, 2006 19:44:39 GMT
1gb sounds a lot, I suppose it depends, if you're just browsing the web it shouldn't hurt you. Downloading 8 ISOs in one evening, however, is a different thing (4gb total took just over 4 hours actually, but that was on quite a fast connection ).
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