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Post by antharro on Dec 25, 2005 4:55:01 GMT
Clicky. Read the item description... I've lived in Bournemouth my entire life (24 years) and I have never seen a Routemaster down here! Anyone fill me in on this? Were there more, or just one? And if they were around here, how the heck have I managed to miss seeing them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 10:21:44 GMT
Back in the 90s (1993/4 ish) there was an operation called 'Routemaster Bournemouth', they had some RMs and some Daimler Fleetlines, which were ex-Bournemouth Transport. The route ran to a place called 'Fisherman's Walk' (I think) and they were in direct competition with Yellow Buses. One of the Fleetlines was CRU 197C, I'm not certain, but they may have been something to do with what is now Vintage Yellow Buses. IIRC, the operation ended when Yellow Buses set up a low-cost operation called 'White Buses', using ex-London Buses DMS class fleetlines. Sorry for being rather vague, it was a while ago  H T H |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 21:03:35 GMT
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Post by antharro on Dec 25, 2005 21:04:20 GMT
Hmm. Well, Yellow Buses had a number of these fellas: -clicky-They used them on the University routes until they lost the contract to Wilts & Dorset. Saw one out a week or so ago on a Tescos "special" run. Or Sainsburys, I don't remember. I really don't remember seeing routemasters down here. We mostly have these: -clicky-And the other bus company around here, Wilts and Dorset have: -clicky--clicky-and more recently, these: -clicky-The Yellows seem to keep those older buses for the summer as they're good tourist buses for the open-top coast tours. Still, I remember when W&D mostly used Metroriders - many hours spent on these buses coming back from school. [ -clicky- ] |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 21:25:33 GMT
The last time I was in Bournemouth was 1997; I dragged my former, long-suffering girlfriend for a spin on an Bournemouth Transport Leyland PD2 open topper. As someone who grew up in Bournemouth, she was unimpressed by a trip on the town tour. At least I didn't sit in the 'thrash' seat behind the engine ;D, opting for the more concilliatory upper deck!
I like the East Lancs bodied new double deckers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 22:10:07 GMT
How interesting! I see the late duty is 114 on the thread. So earlies with Bournemouth Routemaster were numbered 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc and lates 2, 4, 6, 8 etc from finish time. Were they numbered this way at your depot David? Basingstoke duties are numbered like that, the days are numbered from Monday to Sunday (Mon -1, Tues - 2 etc) so for example if 49 duty does something different on a Friday, like a contract run that just runs on that day the duty becomes 549. Saturdays are 6xx and Sundays 7xx. The only traditionally numbered depot I can think of is Aldershot, where if memory serves me right it's like this: Earlies/Daytime shifts 1 - 57 Middles - 70 - 77 Lates - 81 - 89 Saturdays are 1xx and Sundays 2xx. Any weekday variation gets a letter at the end. So 49 on a Friday again becomes 49F. |
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Post by antharro on Dec 26, 2005 0:18:52 GMT
Excellent link, David, thanks!
A great shame we don't still have Routemasters down here now; they'd go lovely alongside the Leylands for the tourist runs, and even just in general day to day duties.
Still, the price of progress... at least we don't have bendy-buses! (...yet!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 6:20:59 GMT
How interesting! I see the late duty is 114 on the thread. So earlies with Bournemouth Routemaster were numbered 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc and lates 2, 4, 6, 8 etc from finish time. Were they numbered this way at your depot David? Basingstoke duties are numbered like that, the days are numbered from Monday to Sunday (Mon -1, Tues - 2 etc) so for example if 49 duty does something different on a Friday, like a contract run that just runs on that day the duty becomes 549. Saturdays are 6xx and Sundays 7xx. . Duties at St. James garage in Northampton were numbered as follows: 601/3/5 etc were 6-hour earlies 602/4/6 etc were 6-hour lates 651/3/5 etc were Sat 6-hr earlies 652/4/6 etc wre Sat 6 hr lates 8xx duties were numbered the same way but were 8 hr turns 10xx duties were 10hr duties but were numbered sequentially 15xx duties were 10hr Sat duties numbered sequentially This system had been in place since the introduction of total OPO in 1986. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 8:11:35 GMT
How interesting! I see the late duty is 114 on the thread. So earlies with Bournemouth Routemaster were numbered 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc and lates 2, 4, 6, 8 etc from finish time. Were they numbered this way at your depot David? Basingstoke duties are numbered like that, the days are numbered from Monday to Sunday (Mon -1, Tues - 2 etc) so for example if 49 duty does something different on a Friday, like a contract run that just runs on that day the duty becomes 549. Saturdays are 6xx and Sundays 7xx. . Duties at St. James garage in Northampton were numbered as follows: 601/3/5 etc were 6-hour earlies 602/4/6 etc were 6-hour lates 651/3/5 etc were Sat 6-hr earlies 652/4/6 etc wre Sat 6 hr lates 8xx duties were numbered the same way but were 8 hr turns 10xx duties were 10hr duties but were numbered sequentially 15xx duties were 10hr Sat duties numbered sequentially This system had been in place since the introduction of total OPO in 1986. How many hours a week did a driver do? Was a typical week one 10, three 8 and one 6 hour turn? Or maybe two 6's, two 10's and one 8. Also how was a 6 hour duty organised? Book on - 5 1/2 hr lump - Book off. I'm aware that non EU duties can do 5 1/2 hrs on with a minumum of a 33 minute break. EU is 4 1/2 hrs with a 45 minute break. Am I right? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 23:08:21 GMT
We did a 44hr week, which would typically be 5x8hr duties on the 'special' rota, spreadovers and oddball duties which were done by the same driver every day. The main rota ('A' rota) did 2x10 and 4x6 hour duties, there were 81 lines in this. Latterly, there was a 'contract' rota, whose drivers mainly did schools, works services and bus changeovers. These drivers operated an eight-hour spreadover, they got less money, drove old buses and did less work.
I worked on the A and special rotas at times during my time there. When on the special rota, I did a bit of driving during the morning peak to cover late running, then was the radio operator until the PM peak, then back out to cover late runners till 1830, I always had the same bus; for a while an Atlantean (ex-GM Buses ANA 629Y) then a Dennis Dominator (ex-Leicester E 92HNR). I used to do overtime on Saturdays, either on the radio or on the road.
Are you all still awake?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2005 7:30:34 GMT
We did a 44hr week, which would typically be 5x8hr duties on the 'special' rota, spreadovers and oddball duties which were done by the same driver every day. The main rota ('A' rota) did 2x10 and 4x6 hour duties, there were 81 lines in this. Latterly, there was a 'contract' rota, whose drivers mainly did schools, works services and bus changeovers. These drivers operated an eight-hour spreadover, they got less money, drove old buses and did less work. I worked on the A and special rotas at times during my time there. When on the special rota, I did a bit of driving during the morning peak to cover late running, then was the radio operator until the PM peak, then back out to cover late runners till 1830, I always had the same bus; for a while an Atlantean (ex-GM Buses ANA 629Y) then a Dennis Dominator (ex-Leicester E 92HNR). I used to do overtime on Saturdays, either on the radio or on the road. Are you all still awake? Basingstoke rotas are (or were a few years ago) a bit different to all that - it was good if you were one of the old boys! It had been the same way for years and this is how it was made up (at a guess): Alton Rota (real old timers rota): Approx 6 lines. All remote stuff in Alton. 4 day week with 1 in 3 Saturdays and no Sundays. No lates. Country Rota (old boys rota): Approx 17 lines. Mainly out - of - town stuff, bulk of contract work with some town work. 4 day week. 7 out of 17 Saturdays and 3 out of 17 Sundays. One late week which was contract work finishing by 23:00. Split Rota (generally quite senior rota): Approx 8 lines. Town work on split duties. 5 day week. Every other Saturday and no Sundays. No lates. 4 Day Town Rota (Most drivers): Approx 44 lines. Town work on 4 day week. Generally every third Saturday, Sunday duty every 22 weeks. No lates. 5 Day Town Rota (Newbies): Approx 22 lines. Town work on 5 day week. Generally 3 Saturdays out of 4. Generally every other Sunday. All dead earlies or dead lates. Earliest book on 05:25 latest book off 00:27 Late Rota (mixed): Approx 3 lines. Town work on 5 day week. Sunday to Thursday every week on lates finishing between 23:49 and 23:58. What would the unions at your depot make of that? The 5 day rota is great!!  |
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