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Post by q8 on Nov 6, 2005 22:05:55 GMT
Following on from another thread. Where are 'rear cab clear' plungers till in use or situated? They were at Elephant and Embankment district in my time. There were 'train ready to start' plungers at Richmond and Wimbledon also.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 22:08:41 GMT
The TRTS plungers are still available at Richmond and Wimbledon - if you don't 'plunge' when you're ready to go, you won't go anywhere!  |
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Post by Tom on Nov 6, 2005 22:56:00 GMT
Elephant still has them, as have Brixton and Picc Circus SB. I'm not sure if Waterloo W&C has plungers but I know they do step back. One place that also had them was Drayton Park, despite the crews not stepping back there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 23:03:23 GMT
Elephant still has them, as have Brixton and Picc Circus SB. I'm not sure if Waterloo W&C has plungers but I know they do step back. One place that also had them was Drayton Park, despite the crews not stepping back there. Aldgate and Shoreditch have them. TRSt plungers are found all over the place, nearly in every siding |
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Post by setttt on Nov 6, 2005 23:08:31 GMT
I hope I'm not going to make myself look thick in asking what stepping back is.
Is it a case of one driver bringing a train in, another taking it out, then the relieved driver taking out the next and so on?
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Post by Tom on Nov 6, 2005 23:09:31 GMT
Ah - I forgot about Aldgate (and I've just remembered Charing Cross Jubilee Line too).
I always thought the plungers in stabling sidings were for the T/Op to inform the signaller where the train was, not necessarily that the train was ready to move?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 23:20:14 GMT
I hope I'm not going to make myself look thick in asking what stepping back is. Train comes in. Driver gets of. New driver gets on the other end. Train goes within two mins. I always thought the plungers in stabling sidings were for the T/Op to inform the signaller where the train was, not necessarily that the train was ready to move? I have always been taught they are to tell the signal operator that you are there, in position, ready to go. Sort of like 'ready when you are' |
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Post by Colin on Nov 6, 2005 23:27:46 GMT
I hope I'm not going to make myself look thick in asking what stepping back is. Is it a case of one driver bringing a train in, another taking it out, then the relieved driver taking out the next and so on? You are spot on seth, that's exactly what it means I always thought the plungers in stabling sidings were for the T/Op to inform the signaller where the train was, not necessarily that the train was ready to move? The signalman knows the train is there from his diagram. Not all sidings have plungers - for example, Barking dosen't. Where they are in sidings, they still don't work - Parsons Green* being an example. Then there's Triangle sidings - where, if don't plunge, the signalman can't let you out. Also at Ealing Common depot (West end), Earls Court can signal trains straight onto 19 & 20 roads, but for any other road, the shunter has to operate a plunger to enable the Shunt to clear from either platform. *= in fairness, those at Parsons Green may well work - but the standing instruction is not to touch them, 'just in case'........ EDIT: MA beat me to it!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 4:24:25 GMT
embankment still has the plungers they are on the platform ramps
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Post by Tom on Nov 7, 2005 21:39:17 GMT
The signalman knows the train is there from his diagram. True, but he doesn't know which train is which, hence the requirement for the driver of (for example) train 225 to plunge to identify which road he is on. |
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Post by tom2506 on Nov 7, 2005 21:55:22 GMT
Does anybody have a photo of one of these plungers? I am interested to see what they look like and where they are located.
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Post by Tom on Nov 7, 2005 22:22:20 GMT
I think so - I'll have a hunt around in the archives on my laptop.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 22:00:25 GMT
The ones at Richmond are just a smallish cable box with a button on them - a single firm push is all that is needed to wake up inform the signaller that you are ready to go.
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