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Post by londontube on Nov 3, 2005 12:36:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 12:55:33 GMT
The Special TD is sometimes used for ECS movements, engineers trains or in-service movements that don't fit into the TDs provided (i.e. Highgate to Golders Green via Kennington, which might be one such movement).
BAET once said that a Special TD has to be routed manually through junctions, which is why it isn't often used when engineers trains are about.
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Post by citysig on Nov 3, 2005 19:35:30 GMT
BAET once said that a Special TD has to be routed manually through junctions, which is why it isn't often used when engineers trains are about. That depends on the bit of kit you've got doing the routing of course ;D Looks like somewhere in the programming, they have forgotten to omit the "Not In Service" trains (or forgotten to display "Not In Service" rather than "Special") and have slipped when typing Archway. The "T" is next to the "Y" after all.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 3, 2005 20:45:53 GMT
Also, do trains teminate at Archway, which I persume is what "Archwat" is meant to be? I presume they must do. I was on a train that was meant to be going to MHE, but due to signalling problems we were told (between Camden and Kentish Town) that the train was going to terminate at Archway. The signaler/line controller or whoever had changed their mind by the time we got their though (but the in-car display was still saying Archway until about East Finchley)- but it wasn't until we got to Finchley Central that it was certain whether it was going to MHE or High Barnet (they eventually chose the latter). Chris
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Post by Colin on Nov 4, 2005 0:46:56 GMT
Can I add that a point to remember here is that the descriptions on 'ETA' are taken directly from the signaling system on the given line. If 'ETA' doesn't recognise the information it defaults to special - and happens quite often on the Jubilee line pages. I'm not saying it wasn't a "special" of some sort, just that 'ETA' is not perfect
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2005 7:26:07 GMT
some dot matrix signs are not programmed when a special t/d is put on a train if this is the case it will show a blank but most signs will say not in service
the top end of the northern is controlled via programme machines so a special would not be on the timetable roll so yes they would have to be manually routed through the area in push button mode
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Post by Tomcakes on Nov 5, 2005 22:15:58 GMT
I was at South Ken today and there was an EB train up as Oakwood. This stuck me as strange, as all trains were turning at Wood Green due to the engineering work. The train duly approached... it was a couple of battery locos with some ballast wagons! Shouldn't this have been shown as "SPECIAL"?
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Post by Tom on Nov 5, 2005 22:24:02 GMT
BAET once said that a Special TD has to be routed manually through junctions, which is why it isn't often used when engineers trains are about. Did I?? If a site has special as an option I don't believe it can transmit any destination info. This is why Tom B would have seen an Oakwood TD today, it makes life easier for the Signal Ops at E/Ct as the train can be auto routed. Oh, and those spelling mistakes are nothing. One DMI on the northern today was scrolling 'Central Line suspended between Marble Arch and North Acton due to planed (sic) engineering work'
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Post by Tom on Nov 5, 2005 22:26:09 GMT
Can I add that a point to remember here is that the descriptions on 'ETA' are taken directly from the signaling system on the given line. If 'ETA' doesn't recognise the information it defaults to special - and happens quite often on the Jubilee line pages. And the Northern and Victoria Lines - have a look at Trackernet if you get the chance and count the number of train 477's that are running around.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2005 22:46:25 GMT
BAET once said that a Special TD has to be routed manually through junctions, which is why it isn't often used when engineers trains are about. Did I?? I think so. Naturally I don't remember where, of course... If a site has special as an option I don't believe it can transmit any destination info. This is why Tom B would have seen an Oakwood TD today, it makes life easier for the Signal Ops at E/Ct as the train can be auto routed. I think that was what you said elsewhere, and why I remembered it when I stated that factoid about the Special T/D.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 15:01:34 GMT
it was me who mentioned about the t/d if i remember talking about programme machines
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