The set-up

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The set-up Oct 30, 2005 14:10:41 GMT

Post by q8 on Oct 30, 2005 14:10:41 GMT

I have a question for Stanmore K.

Why, when the PPP was implemented, was the obvious method of line grouping not followed? For instance the Met/Jubilee, District/Piccadilly run side-by-side and used to intrrun with one another and use each others lines in disruption.

Now that are separate companies and seem to avoid one another like the plague. Surely the set up as it is now is divisive?

IMHO What should have been done was that the tube lines that are self contained like the Northern and Central etc should have gone to one firm and the intermixed lines to the other.

I'd like to know why the present method was adopted please?

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The set-up Oct 30, 2005 14:21:44 GMT

Post by Chris M on Oct 30, 2005 14:21:44 GMT

So you would have split it:
1: District/H&C/Met/Circle/Picc/Jub/ELL
2: Central/Victiora/W&C/Northern/Bakerloo*

(or would you have put the Bakerloo in with group 1 as its linked to the Jubbly at Baker Street?)

A key difference with this model is that you've only got two franchieses rather than three. The prefered method of privatising things rail related seems to be to split it into as many bits as you can - maybe this makes more profit for the entity selling the assests off?

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The set-up Oct 30, 2005 15:07:23 GMT

Post by citysig on Oct 30, 2005 15:07:23 GMT

q8 said:

I have a question for Stanmore K.

Not chucking him in at the deep end then

His employers acted in what appeared to be the best way to do things when the paper was shuffled on the desk. It looked and sounded good. Some of the motives still seem fairly logical - having the sub-surface lines grouped for instance.

Taking Chris's examples above, if they went for the option of having groups of lines that interface with one another, guess what we would end up with? I'll give you a clue. Combine both examples Chris gives, and give it a fancy title like.... London Underground.

I'm sure Stanmore K will be more or less as in the dark as most of us are on the reasoning behind many of the decisions made.

(Sorry to talk about you as if you weren't here Stanmore K ;D )

q8 Guest	The set-up Oct 30, 2005 18:34:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by q8 on Oct 30, 2005 18:34:05 GMT Well with CA42's scheme the sub-surface lines are grouped as an entity. But as you say greed got in the way again. Oh for the days when we had leaders that had common sense.

Post by q8 on Oct 30, 2005 14:10:41 GMT

Post by Chris M on Oct 30, 2005 14:21:44 GMT

Post by citysig on Oct 30, 2005 15:07:23 GMT

Post by q8 on Oct 30, 2005 18:34:05 GMT