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Post by q8 on Oct 17, 2005 17:06:27 GMT
You know it seems to me that languages come in 'families' By that I mean a sort of group. Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic seem to be one family.
Finnish, Latvian, Estonian, Lithuanian seem to be another. Polish and Czechoslovakian a third.
Russian seems to be the head of the 'Slavik' family. I would assume that all these peoples within a family came from the same root stock but different tribes?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 17, 2005 19:00:16 GMT
Languages do come in families (that is the proper term for it). See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_familyThe genetic classification of Finnish is: Uralic Finno-Ugric Finno-Permic Finno-Volgaic Finno-Lappic Baltic-Finnic Finnish Swedish is: Indo-European Germanic North Germanic East Scandinavian Swedish Estonian is: Uralic languages Finno-Ugric languages Finno-Lappic Baltic Finnic Estonian English is: Indo-European Germanic West Germanic Anglo-Frisian Anglic English Russian is: Indo-European Slavic East Slavic Russian
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Post by chris on Oct 17, 2005 20:28:54 GMT
If you look into the history of a country (i.e. when it got invaded/who by/how recently etc) and look at the invaders languages, you'll find a lot of simalarities.
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Post by q8 on Oct 17, 2005 20:54:23 GMT
Why is it when I see the word 'wikipedia; a picture of a dirty old sod with his jolly wobbler in his hand comes to mind?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 18, 2005 0:01:41 GMT
Q8 - I've got no idea There is (of course) articles on all sorts of pornography and sexual acts (as there are lots of people who want to write about that stuff) but there are far more articles about non-sexual topics. A random selection of articles gives: Tyne and Wear Metro Misión Santa María de los Ángeles (a Spanish mission in Baja California, Mexico) Cristina Peri Rossi (a Uruaguyan-born Spanish poet, novellist and playwright) Acquire (an abstract board game of investing in hotel chains) Andhra University (located in Visakhapatnam is one of the older premier universities in India) Gleipnir (In Norse Mythology Gleipnir is the bindings that hold the mighty Fenrisulfr. Even though it is as thin as a silken ribbon, it is stronger than any iron chain.) Whitehead manifold (something to do with Mathematics) Miyazaki, Miyazaki (the capital city of Miyazaki on the Kyushu island of Japan.) Alliance for Democracy in Mali (a political party in Mali)
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Post by igelkotten on Oct 18, 2005 0:36:54 GMT
You know it seems to me that languages come in 'families' By that I mean a sort of group. Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic seem to be one family. Finnish, Latvian, Estonian, Lithuanian seem to be another. Polish and Czechoslovakian a third. Russian seems to be the head of the 'Slavik' family. I would assume that all these peoples within a family came from the same root stock but different tribes? Do note that even thoguh languages may be in the same family, they can very well be utterly incomprehensible to each other. Case in point: Icelandic and the "mainland" scandinavian languages (Swedish, Norwegian and Danish). Icelandic in it's modern form is much, much closer to ancient norse than the other three languages. While there are some similarities, icelandic is basically incomprehensible to a swede. It might be possible to decipher a word here and there, especially in written icelandic, but that's about it. Oh, and while Faroese is another language close to old norse, it is quite different to modern icelandic. The differences between languages and how they arise is a long, complicated subject. Most modern linguists and historians reject the idea of "conquering tribes" imposing thier language on another population. Instead, migration, trade and other demographic factors are seen as much more important historically. Of course, when nationalism arose in the early 1800's, the elites of several countries started looking for the cultural roots of the country, and if they couldn't find roots suitably ancient and impressive, they invented them, along with a glorious past. Thus, nationalist intellectuals in Norway wanted to emphasize the "norwegianness" of Norway, and deliberately created "nynorsk", a new dialect of norwegian that was supposedly an return to the old "true" norwegian, rid of harmful swedish and danish influences, in contrast to the danish-influenced "bokmål" spoken by the urban elites. Other similar efforts were, for example, the fairy tales collected by the Brothers Grimm, the finnish heroic tale "Kalevala", and of course the british "Song of Ossian". While the brothers Grimm and the Kalevala where at least based on genuine folk stories, as opposed to the "Ossian", which was invented outright, they all served the same purpose: to influence contemporary events by inventing a suitable past and a suitable language.
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