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Post by Christopher J on Aug 21, 2005 22:11:52 GMT
After coming home from the Pub meet via Acton with DD and Seth, I caught the Picc to Holborn and then the Central to Mile End to catch the District for the final leg home.
Whilst I stood at Mile End awaiting for an EB District, after a few mins there was a very odd 'eerrrr!!!!' noise coming from the WB Central Line Tunnel, and it got louder and louder and louder as it seemed to get closer to the platform (by the time it reached the platform, you couldn't hear yourself think!), I know Mile End station quite well and to my knowledge I had not heard this certain sound at the station before.
My first assumption was that it was a 92 stock with really dodgy Traction Motors belting it up to the platform, but I was incorrect, this certain thing making lots of noise was infact L15 with a few wagons of Ballast!
Can anybody find out what working it was doing? It passed though Mile End at around 21:20 - Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2005 22:17:20 GMT
Can anybody find out what working it was doing? It passed though Mile End at around 21:20 - Thank you! Taking ballast to / from Rusilip to the engineering work out east on the central
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Post by Chris M on Aug 21, 2005 22:25:48 GMT
Whilst I stood at Mile End awaiting for an EB District, after a few mins there was a very odd 'eerrrr!!!!' noise coming from the WB Central Line Tunnel, and it got louder and louder and louder as it seemed to get closer to the platform (by the time it reached the platform, you couldn't hear yourself think!), I feel sorry for the driver of the train, it would drive me mad!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 0:11:48 GMT
I feel sorry for the driver of the train, it would drive me mad! I wouldnt mind doing it! hhhmmmm Battery Thrash! ;D
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Post by Christopher J on Aug 22, 2005 0:15:17 GMT
hhhmmmm Battery Thrash! ;D How many Duracells do you need to move one? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 17:23:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 18:11:42 GMT
I wouldnt mind doing it! hhhmmmm Battery Thrash! ;D You get worse MA ;D I'm only jealousNice pic BTW ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 18:52:26 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the battery locos are of a 1938 design. Does anyone know if any those used today were actually built as far back as 1938? How old are they?
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Post by towerman on Aug 22, 2005 19:30:55 GMT
L15 was 1969 build for working Picc Heathrow extension.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 19:55:17 GMT
I've only ever been in one battery loco, it had a weird type of deadman; just a button in the handgrip on the controller. Are they all like that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2005 22:07:41 GMT
I've only ever been in one battery loco, it had a weird type of deadman; just a button in the handgrip on the controller. Are they all like that? Yep, iam reliably informed that if you are driving one for a little while, you get a nice ring indent in your hand when you let go! This button is the deadman. Another fact you might like to know is that there are 32 (IIRC) notches on the deadman!
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Post by towerman on Aug 22, 2005 22:38:20 GMT
Also you have shunt,series,series-parrallel and parallel.You can only cut out motors in pairs,I believe it's 1&3 or 2&4.When you do that you get no movement until series-parallel,doesn't half start up with a jolt!!
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Post by q8 on Aug 24, 2005 11:26:24 GMT
I've only ever been in one battery loco, it had a weird type of deadman; just a button in the handgrip on the controller. Are they all like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cor blimey cock, you should have seen some of the handles on the standard (pre-1938) stock. Some were large square things 6 inches by four and about an inch and a half thick. Not only did you have to hold that monstrosity down but it also had a knob in the button that also had to be kept depressed. If you did a Ruislip-Epping you had a bloody hole on the palm of your hand.
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Post by Phil on Aug 24, 2005 13:08:57 GMT
I've only ever been in one battery loco, it had a weird type of deadman; just a button in the handgrip on the controller. Are they all like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cor blimey cock, you should have seen some of the handles on the standard (pre-1938) stock. Some were large square things 6 inches by four and about an inch and a half thick. Not only did you have to hold that monstrosity down but it also had a knob in the button that also had to be kept depressed. If you did a Ruislip-Epping you had a bloody hole on the palm of your hand. So apart from drivers' bags what else was used to hold down the deadmans?
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Post by ikar on Aug 24, 2005 13:24:30 GMT
After coming home from the Pub meet via Acton with DD and Seth, I caught the Picc to Holborn and then the Central to Mile End to catch the District for the final leg home. Whilst I stood at Mile End awaiting for an EB District, after a few mins there was a very odd 'eerrrr!!!!' noise coming from the WB Central Line Tunnel, and it got louder and louder and louder as it seemed to get closer to the platform (by the time it reached the platform, you couldn't hear yourself think!), I know Mile End station quite well and to my knowledge I had not heard this certain sound at the station before. My first assumption was that it was a 92 stock with really dodgy Traction Motors belting it up to the platform, but I was incorrect, this certain thing making lots of noise was infact L15 with a few wagons of Ballast! Can anybody find out what working it was doing? It passed though Mile End at around 21:20 - Thank you! There was a Engineering work at Leytonstone station this week
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 24, 2005 14:14:44 GMT
I've only ever been in one battery loco, it had a weird type of deadman; just a button in the handgrip on the controller. Are they all like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cor blimey cock, you should have seen some of the handles on the standard (pre-1938) stock. Some were large square things 6 inches by four and about an inch and a half thick. Not only did you have to hold that monstrosity down but it also had a knob in the button that also had to be kept depressed. If you did a Ruislip-Epping you had a bloody hole on the palm of your hand. So apart from drivers' bags what else was used to hold down the deadmans? There was a nasty collision at Manors in 1926 when a driver of an electric train fell out of the cab. He was reported to be leaning out looking into the saloon at a courting couple . The deadman had been tied down with two hankercheifs.
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Post by Christopher J on Aug 24, 2005 14:40:37 GMT
Thank you for all the replies. I once head a story that a T/op of a 73TS on the Piccadilly Line failed to get a Pilot light at a station (Don't know which station) because there was something stuck in between one of the doors, The T/op left the Control Key/RKL220 all in place and left the CTBC depressed in SERVICE 1 with a Bag of shopping he/she had, the T/op managed to get whatever it was stuck in the doors out so that a Pilot Light could be given for the Train to motor, unfortunately as the T/op was walking back to the Cab, something in the bag of shopping depressing the CTBC 'slipped' causing the CTBC to move from SERIES 1 to a motoring position with nobody present in the cab. Does anybody remember this incident and what the outcome was?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 15:10:34 GMT
This happened at Kings Cross and the driver was sacked and prosecuted!
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Post by chris on Aug 24, 2005 15:14:00 GMT
driver of an electric train fell out of the cab. . ROFL! That wasn't a funny incident, the idea of a driver falling out and the train slowly departing I find (for some reason) halirous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 15:50:40 GMT
I once head a story that a T/op of a 73TS on the Piccadilly Line failed to get a Pilot light at a station (Don't know which station) because there was something stuck in between one of the doors, The T/op left the Control Key/RKL220 all in place and left the CTBC depressed in SERVICE 1 with a Bag of shopping he/she had, the T/op managed to get whatever it was stuck in the doors out so that a Pilot Light could be given for the Train to motor, unfortunately as the T/op was walking back to the Cab, something in the bag of shopping depressing the CTBC 'slipped' causing the CTBC to move from SERIES 1 to a motoring position with nobody present in the cab. Incorrect, the driver left his work bag on the deadman depressed down, with the TBC in 'parrallel', he went back to the the door with the problem, fixed the issue, the train got the pilot light and off it went. As Jim says, the driver was sacked and prosecuted.
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Post by solidbond on Aug 24, 2005 16:23:07 GMT
Not only prosecuted, but found guilty of endangering passenger safety, and got sentenced to six months inside.
As a direct result of his actions, 'traction restroking' was implemented on all stock, preventing the pilot light circuit from being completed if the CTBC is in a motoring position. Hence the reason why, if a driver loses the pilot light, they have to shut off and wind up again
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 24, 2005 18:19:16 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the battery locos are of a 1938 design. Does anyone know if any those used today were actually built as far back as 1938? How old are they? L35-43 were the 1938 (Gloucester) vintage ones, these are now withdrawn. Available now are: L20/21 1964 (Metro-Cammell) L22-32 1965 (Metro-Cammell) L15/16 1970 (Metro-Cammell) L17-19 1971 (Metro-Cammell) L44-54 1974 (BREL Doncaster) L62-67 1985 (Metro-Cammell)-withdrawn
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 18:20:20 GMT
Re: Kings X runnaway...
What stopped the train? Presumably it was tripped.
When was this incident?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 18:23:55 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the battery locos are of a 1938 design. Does anyone know if any those used today were actually built as far back as 1938? How old are they? L35-43 were the 1938 (Gloucester) vintage ones, these are now withdrawn. Available now are: L20/21 1964 (Metro-Cammell) L22-32 1965 (Metro-Cammell) L15/16 1970 (Metro-Cammell) L17-19 1971 (Metro-Cammell) L44-54 1974 (BREL Doncaster) L62-67 1985 (Metro-Cammell)-withdrawn Why have L62-67 been withdrawn, what was wrong with them?
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Post by q8 on Aug 24, 2005 18:35:58 GMT
There was a nasty collision at Manors in 1926 when a driver of an electric train fell out of the cab. He was reported to be leaning out looking into the saloon at a courting couple . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- A similar and much hushed up thing occured on the DR in the early sixties by a driver now retired and still living on the DR. I was running with this same driver with 6 car CP once on a dead late and, as we used to, I walked through the train to the east end after Dagenham East counting the number of folk on board. You then worked the doors from the east end and counted the number getting off thereafter. This made for a quick close up at Upminster and down the yard. However I walked through one night and when I got to the east end and went into the cab to chat to my mate there was no b*gger there!! The train was driving itself with the oil tail lamp hanging on the handle. I then got a tap on the shoulder and my driver was behind me. When asked how this was possible I was told I had passed him in the dark in a middle cab. He had, of course, been "bogging"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 18:40:08 GMT
That's remarkably dodgy! What does DR stand for anyway? District-something? Sam
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Post by Christopher J on Aug 24, 2005 19:56:13 GMT
What does DR stand for anyway? District-something? District Railway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2005 20:00:41 GMT
Brilliant, taa Chris!
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Post by Tom on Aug 24, 2005 20:24:41 GMT
Re: Kings X runnaway... What stopped the train? Presumably it was tripped. When was this incident? Tripped approaching Holloway Road at 45mph no less. Not sure of the date, post 1987 for sure.
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Post by solidbond on Aug 24, 2005 20:26:59 GMT
Re: Kings X runnaway... What stopped the train? Presumably it was tripped. When was this incident? Can't remember exactly, but I think that the current was discharged, and it came to a halt due to gradient, although it may have been tripped. It happened in about 1994, or thereabouts.
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