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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 13:12:25 GMT
Dunno if this has been asked before, but I can't find a place for it.
At Mile End, above the leading end tunnel mouth of the central lines, there's lightboxes with 'District Approaching', so the ops know not to eff off and leave the district pax standing around. Why aren't there similar 'Central Approaching' lightboxes for the District platforms? And does this kind of thing appear anywhere else on the network?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 15:54:23 GMT
Dunno if this has been asked before, but I can't find a place for it. At Mile End, above the leading end tunnel mouth of the central lines, there's lightboxes with 'District Approaching', so the ops know not to eff off and leave the district pax standing around. Why aren't there similar 'Central Approaching' lightboxes for the District platforms? And does this kind of thing appear anywhere else on the network? This is because Central line trains pull up right to the end of the platforms and the driver has no idea whats coming. District line trains stop a car short from the end and can see when a Central line train is entering the platform. There are similar arrangements at Finchley Road and Wembley Park on the Met and Jubilee platforms and at Kennington on the Northern line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 18:09:58 GMT
There's also a convex mirror on each headwall so District drivers can see a Central line train approaching and close the doors quick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 20:47:47 GMT
Probably worth clarifying Jim and adw ! Otherwise readers may assume we pull away deliberately as a Central arrives. You can't see a train "entering" the platform unless it is going the opposite way ! If it is quiet you can hear a Central approaching once it has entered the platform. You can see it in the mirrors on the eastbound when it is about 1/2 way in. The stopping point on the west means you can only see a Central in the mirror when it is almost level with the cab door anyway. I always wait for an arriving Central if I am aware of it, unless i have already engaged motors and I'm pleased to say, on the eastbound, passengers often thank you for re-opening the doors and waiting. Despite having the benefits of the light boxes, it seems to me the Central rarely wait for the District !!! We do get more accusations for not waiting for C2C connections at Upminster (the time take to get over the steps would cause delay to the District, but that is annoying if there is nothing else there and a gap behind ..as a driver though, delaying a departure can get you "booked" and by the time you're questioned about it you've long forgotten why ... I hold where i reasonably can) and with C2C at Barking eastbound ...we have no view whatsoever of the C2C train 4 & 8 car stop or berthed trains in advance of it. Still this is a Central Line thread ...so i am digressing !!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2007 9:59:23 GMT
I know this is a Central Line thread, but does anyone know if there are arrangements like this at Finsbury Park? There sure don't seem to be any. With frequencies of 24 and 30(?) trains per hour they might just not bother.
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Post by bluemole on Sept 28, 2007 17:43:29 GMT
Dunno if this has been asked before, but I can't find a place for it. At Mile End, above the leading end tunnel mouth of the central lines, there's lightboxes with 'District Approaching', so the ops know not to eff off and leave the district pax standing around. Why aren't there similar 'Central Approaching' lightboxes for the District platforms? And does this kind of thing appear anywhere else on the network? Not particularly relevant to Mile End, but at Arnos Grove there was a lamp that lit up where the buses wait to tell the bus driver that a train was approaching. I understan it was of no use as the buses used to disappear quickly when the light went on!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2007 18:20:17 GMT
I know this is a Central Line thread, but does anyone know if there are arrangements like this at Finsbury Park? There sure don't seem to be any. With frequencies of 24 and 30(?) trains per hour they might just not bother. I was told by a couple of my IO's to wait at Finsbury Park (I'm a Picc driver) if I become aware of a Victoria Line train pulling in. I always look across through the partitions and sometimes it is possible to hear a train pulling up when I've stopped, but it depends on how crowded the platform is, acoustics etc. On occasion I will also call up the LC if there is a large gap behind me to see if they want me to hold, as I appreciate from when I worked on stations how busy interchanges can get. None of this is "official" as booked connections only apply to last trains, I just try to do it out of courtesy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 13:12:34 GMT
Despite having the benefits of the light boxes, it seems to me the Central rarely wait for the District !!! Perfectly plausible because of the issue of trains blocking back. The Central line at times literally comes through the tube every 90 seconds, while at Mile End, a 5 minute wait for a District is quite normal. District ops therefore have more flexibility to wait in comparison with Central ops.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 21:49:20 GMT
Perfectly plausible because of the issue of trains blocking back. The Central line at times literally comes through the tube every 90 seconds, while at Mile End, a 5 minute wait for a District is quite normal. District ops therefore have more flexibility to wait in comparison with Central ops. But the eastbound in particular the Central hasn't been delayed on it's journey. 9 times out of 10 Eastbound trains are running late after being delayed by other lines trains which interrun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 23:30:03 GMT
Forgot about that! The Central in itself may suffer from delays from customers holding doors open!
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