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Post by Colin on Jul 8, 2007 3:45:33 GMT
It seems that at present everytime a train is stopped betwen stations some passengers instantly assume it is a Terrorist Attack and start to panic. it might be a good idea if the reason for an unusual stop is given to the passengers by the Train Operator as soon as possible. (In the event of a real terrorist attack it might be desirable to tone down the details !) That's all well & good assuming the train op actually knows what's going on - in this case he/she more than likely did - but in the Camden Town & Hammersmith derailments, it was the rear of the train that was involved. Bear in mind also that the PA wires may become detached where cars derail.............I'm sure that most train ops will do all they can to reassure their passengers as much as they can in such extreme circumstances. In the case of 7/7, most of us (LUL staff) didn't know what was going on until long after it all kicked off - if you can instantly tell the difference between a detonated device and something else, good luck to ya! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 7:19:27 GMT
Trains stop all the time. I mean, if you don't hear a loud bang or see a wall of fire coming towards you i think you're ok. Though, myself am lucky. I was traveling on the tube on the 2nd attack. Now if only i had taken a different route and were travelling on the 7th...
My thoughts go out to those who lost part of their family, husbands and wifes.
I also think we have the best at most times, the greatist transport workers in the world.
Buses going back into London to collect people, train drivers making sure everyone was ok and the staff keeping calm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 8:10:42 GMT
That's all well & good assuming the train op actually knows what's going on - in this case he/she more than likely did - but in the Camden Town & Hammersmith derailments, it was the rear of the train that was involved. Bear in mind also that the PA wires may become detached where cars derail.............I'm sure that most train ops will do all they can to reassure their passengers as much as they can in such extreme circumstances. From what I've seen in the press though, it does sound that the driver of this train did a good job of keeping his passengers calm and informed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 8:22:08 GMT
About 12 years ago, I was on the Northern going to Waterloo when the train in front stalled. We had to be de-trained and walk along the pipe to Warren Street. Some of the pax were a bit scared and the T/Op did a very good job helping passengers and keeping us informed.
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Post by compsci on Jul 8, 2007 8:47:38 GMT
On my regular commute I get the impression that the train spontaneously combusting and loud bangs are about the only signs of trouble that many passengers would notice.
Two days ago one of them was fiddling with the air vents, wondering why they weren't blowing anything. The clue was that only the emergency lights were on as overhead power had failed. Some of them get really jumpy when the circuit breakers are activated at neutral sections. Any attempt to explain what is actually happening goes right over their head.
They will happily create barricades of luggage and bikes to stop themselves escaping in an emergency though.
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Post by rob66 on Jul 8, 2007 22:14:36 GMT
It took a few ballast trains to push the 92 stock to Hainault. Now comfortable in the sheds waiting for repair work.
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Post by c5 on Jul 8, 2007 22:20:29 GMT
It took a few ballast trains to push the 92 stock to Hainault. Now comfortable in the sheds waiting for repair work. Was it 4 or 5 in the end! Bloody heavy bit of plastic tat! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by rob66 on Jul 9, 2007 11:58:22 GMT
I was told it was 5 yesterday.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 31, 2008 14:34:04 GMT
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Post by metman on Jan 31, 2008 15:01:03 GMT
Interesting read. I didn't know 92ts ran in manual at the weekends!
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Post by pgb on Jan 31, 2008 18:06:23 GMT
Nor did I. I'm assuming it's so that drivers retain familiarity with how to drive without affecting the timetable. However, I'm sure the other weekend we were in ATO, but I could be wrong. The stopping tends to give it away when it's in Manual Mode, mind you, the stopping when it's wet gives it away that it's in ATO!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 19:44:08 GMT
It's only in CM on Sundays in the open sections, I believe. (excluding any ATO failures at any other time, obviously!)
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Post by Chris M on Feb 1, 2008 1:25:31 GMT
Nor did I. I'm assuming it's so that drivers retain familiarity with how to drive without affecting the timetable. However, I'm sure the other weekend we were in ATO, but I could be wrong. The stopping tends to give it away when it's in Manual Mode, mind you, the stopping when it's wet gives it away that it's in ATO! In very wet weather a couple of weeks back, a train stopped about ¾ of a car length short at Stratford, then again at Leyton and Leytonstone. After that it didn't seem to have any trouble - so whether they switched to manual I'm not certain - there were three people in the cab when it arrived at Stratford! It's only in CM on Sundays in the open sections, I believe. (excluding any ATO failures at any other time, obviously!) Shortly before Christmas (I think) I was sat up by the J door and heard the controller on the radio repeatedly instructing t/ops to use coded manual on the eastbound between (iirc) White City and Leyton or Leytonstone because of some sort of ATO failure. |
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