solidbond
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Post by solidbond on Mar 28, 2007 16:13:29 GMT
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Post by c5 on Mar 28, 2007 16:18:35 GMT
Cool. Good Work. Ear Defenders for use on that train.
One of my mates who worked for Southern had some snaps of a train that went from London Bridge to East Croydon with the handbrake on..... lets just say there was a fair bit of smoke, and at least there was a flat bit for the skate! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2007 16:54:02 GMT
That isn't going to polish out. SB can you tell us how that happened?
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Post by solidbond on Mar 28, 2007 18:23:30 GMT
That isn't going to polish out. SB can you tell us how that happened? Indeed - it happened one Sunday morning when a D stock had a motor seize but it was not identified as such - it was thought it was a brake problem, so the train was diverted to Parsons Green, back to High St Ken, down to Ealing Broadway then into Ealing Common depot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2007 18:49:50 GMT
Thanks, I hope they improved their diagnostic procedures. I would think there is some way to disengage a seized motor so they don't have to trash the wheelset.
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Post by trainopd78 on Mar 29, 2007 18:09:55 GMT
Not without taking the motor off. If it was realised that the motor had seized, I expect they would have left it at Parsons green and skated the train back to the depot during engineering hours. When we report a problem, and we generally have an idea what it is, the defect has to then be confirmed by a road fitter. I presume he would have been travelling on the said train to confirm the problem, so that is the diagnostic procedure which should have found the problem. However, the problem is not proved until a fitter has confirmed it. It's hard work getting the controllers to believe us when we get a defect, but a driver needs to have the gumption to tell the controller that the train has a bad defect and he/she is unwilling to take the train further. I don't know the ins and outs of this scenario so my comments above are just a general observation of things in this day and age. Mileage!!
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Post by tubeprune on Mar 29, 2007 18:56:30 GMT
The old breakdown gangs used to be equipped with unmeshing tools to disconnect a seized motor from the gearwheel. Do the ERU still have something like that?
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Post by trainopd78 on Mar 30, 2007 16:14:26 GMT
I spoke to an ERU man who was luckily enough travelling in my cab today. He told me it all depends on how the motor has seized. If its an armature or a bearing, then its generally a skate job, but if its anything accessible then its hit with a large object to free it or break it in the way you have described. If its a hot box they'll try to get the train out of the way if at all possible laying grease on the track to limit damage, if practicable, and wait for it to cool down before moving it if at all possible. That's what I like about ERU, always there when you need them.
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Post by tubeprune on Mar 30, 2007 19:13:25 GMT
Thanks for that trainopd78. Interesting.
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