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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2006 11:08:47 GMT
Just thought I'd let you know, it appears that the old tiles are being covered over with ones that look the same, but are slightly larger. The station is being ruined in my opinion. However, Oxford Circus sees the snakes and ladders tiles, replaced with... the same ones as at Lancaster Gate! I think this is an improvement. I'll post a few piccies on my fotopic site soon...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2006 18:23:35 GMT
Yes, as you say, a traditional underground station, ruined in the name of the corporate age. Not much we can do about it now.
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Post by Tom on Jul 23, 2006 21:47:31 GMT
They tiled over the existing at Elephant and Castle as well. Don't quite why myself...
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 25, 2006 1:32:44 GMT
I will doubtless be putting my head on the chopping block by saying this, but here goes.
Just because something is original, does it mean it should be preserved at all costs? Yes, but in the case of Lancaster Gate, no, its platforms are bland to say the least. They might epitomise the clr era, but in 2006, they look sterile and have no aesthetic value to me personally.
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Post by edb on Jul 25, 2006 8:22:56 GMT
By tiling over the current tiles think what evidence they are leaving for time team in 100 years!!
On a serious note. I go through every day and frankly it could be worse. They could be Tiling it in the same colour as Queensway and removing the last vestiges of heritage, or covering it over with enamel sheets like Marble Arch and Holborn (which have been ruined). At least in this age they seem to be keeping with the main fabric of the old but adding a few new features such as the lighting systems and associated enamel (makes it look a little space age) frankly i feel that it has almost struck the right balance (however in an ideal world i would like to see more Edgware Roads). ONe thing i do hope is that when White Citys time comes, they keep the wonderful flourescent tube holders.
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Post by marty on Jul 25, 2006 10:39:10 GMT
I hope, that while they refurbish Lancaster gate, they do something to the lifts!
At one point, one door wouldn´t open, and I had to wait to get out until the door for people entering the lifts opened!
Once at night, around 2330, someone was stuck in the Lifts on platform level. Due to engineering works, the last train had just left, at there was no member of staff around. All I could do was call 999, but I could´nt get any signal in the tunnel. I ran up the stairs to find someone, and when I arrived at the top, I saw that another passenger from my train had already called 999 and he told me that they where just coming. After i had regained my breath, they pulled up in front of the station, and in the end it turned out that the person in the lift was there already for around an hour.
I wrote a letter to LU, complaining about this, and they said that "The test of lifts that was being done regularly had shown that they where Okay, and that there had been 3 members of staff present".
Well, what good does that do, If someone is near suffocating!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2006 12:47:33 GMT
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Post by marty on Jul 26, 2006 13:11:39 GMT
Good good good good
(Jumps up from chair and jumps around out of happiness and eventually has to pour a bottle of water over his head because it´s so bleedin´hot in here...)
Ok, I didn´t actually do that.
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Post by yellowsignal on Aug 3, 2006 6:18:42 GMT
Well, what good does that do, If someone is near suffocating! There probably is plenty of air in an elevator. most elevators are not airtight so there always is some fresh air coming in. Don't the elevators have alarmbuttons? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 16:45:14 GMT
Don't the elevators have alarmbuttons? Yes, they all have this facility. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2006 19:15:17 GMT
Lancaster Gate lifts aren't being totally replaced, like the Queensway ones. They're getting new doors and new motors. All lifts on LU have alarm buttons and the new refurb lifts (like Queensway) also have CCTV. While there is always staff on duty at 'underground' stations, AFAIK there are only 2 staff at Lancaster Gate at 2330. For Marty's info: If a lift fails, the customer presses an alarm button, which connects them to the station supervisor. If the S/S is out the office (it does happen sometimes  ) the call is routed to an emergency number. The S/S will go to the top landing and open a control panel and try and operate the lift from there. Often by brining the lift back to the top, this solves most problems. If this fails, the S/S will go into the machine room and start a 'power wind' procedure. This again brings the lift back to the top landing, but using a back up motor. If this fails the S/S will then use the adjacent lift and carry out a direct transfer, from the failed lift into the working lift. If this fails then the S/S can hand-wind the lift (vvvv hard work). If this fails, the S/S books off and calls the fire brigade All LU staff who work at a lift station are specially trained in these procedures. Luckily I don't work with lifts, so I don't have the licence. BTW the brand new lifts at Queensway are still failing. Considering they're brand new lifts, they had to do a direct transfer the other day, so this meant on brand new lifts 2 procedures failed....  (AND the direct transfer failed, but that's alas a different story  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2006 20:28:26 GMT
Are you willing to share details?
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Post by yellowsignal on Aug 8, 2006 10:36:08 GMT
how does a direct transfer work, are there doors in the sides of the lifts?
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Post by DWS on Aug 8, 2006 12:45:24 GMT
how does a direct transfer work, are there doors in the sides of the lifts? Yes  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2006 22:44:44 GMT
The minimum staffing levels on lift stations are made on the assumption that the lifts can be power winded. My information had informed me of a fault at Queensway which means the lifts can't be power wound. So the direct transfer is used. Direct transfer needs 3 staff, Queensway have 2 staff after 2100. See the problem.
Put it his way, there shouldn't be anything between the 2 lifts, to allow a direct transfer, let's assume that when the lifts were level the staff opened the secret door and were met with a load of building material.
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) the call is routed to an emergency number.
(AND the direct transfer failed, but that's alas a different story 
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