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Post by rob66 on Jul 11, 2006 14:02:44 GMT
In 1987 when those three trains were on show at Woodford for the Central Line.
1st there was the green one - made in 1986. (Metro -Cammell body
2nd was the blue one - was this made at the same year and what company built it.
3rd was the red one. - not sure on details, but was this the 1992 stock we use now.
I have photos of the Green and blue stock but require photo of red stock. (or all together)
Be grateful if someone could give me some details on these tube trains. What stock derailed at Neasden in 1989.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 14:13:57 GMT
AFAIK, the red one wasn't the 92 stock - the 92 stock was put together from taking all the feedback from customers about the green / blue / red prototype '' 86'' stocks.
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Post by rob66 on Jul 11, 2006 14:18:25 GMT
Thanks Jo - I should have known that, but I was on holiday when they were displayed at Woodford and have very little knowledge of them and never ever saw them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 14:33:45 GMT
1 sec mate, and I'll give you the details, if it's in the book..... Right - the Red Train '' A '', was built by Metro Cammell the Blue Train '' B'', was built by BREL the Green Train '' C '', was built by Metro Cammell. AFAIK, they were all built in 1986. As I have said above, the 92 stock was derived from customer feedback from A, B, C trains.  ''I have photos of the Green and blue stock but require photo of red stock. (or all together)'' See Wikipedia Article |
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Post by rob66 on Jul 11, 2006 14:55:05 GMT
Thanks Joe - really helpful. What one is at Acton Museum? I believe the other two was scrapped?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 15:03:53 GMT
Thanks Joe - really helpful. What one is at Acton Museum? I believe the other two was scrapped? It says in Underground Movements:'' Unfortunately, some cars of the Red 'B' [ I think this is a typo ] train, and Green 'C' train were badly damaged in a derailment towards the end of this period. '' [ May 1988 > Aug 1989, when they served the Jubilee line ] So, I'm guessing that it was the Red and Green trains that suffered derailments. It also says that the Green 'C' train was saved from scrap and thus is at the Acton Museum. This was in 1996. The other two were indeed scrapped. For your info, they were first presented to LU staff, press etc, at Woodford Sidings in May 1987. If you want any more info etc, PM me, or post here, and I'll see what I can do Hope this has helped. |
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Post by Oracle on Jul 11, 2006 15:53:29 GMT
Underground News quotes:
1986 TUBE STOCK
From Neasden depot to Birds, Long Marston, by road for scrap -
22 2.9.96
15 3.9.96
25 4.9.96
Sad sight back in '77 I think it was was seeing a long rake of 38TS behind a Class 47 en route to Birds go thrugh Reading WB slow line. I am sure it's cheaper/easier to send stock for scrapping by road these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 18:52:40 GMT
Got a pic somewhere of the ensemble derailed at Neasden.... Ooops!
I'll try and dig it out....
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 11, 2006 20:19:30 GMT
Going slightly off topic, wasnt there a collision involving 38ts at Neasden? Early 80s I think? The driver was killed. I cant remember the exact circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2006 20:23:10 GMT
I know there was a collision in MOR DT on 27th July 1971, cars 10278 and 11159 wrecked. 6 road if I remember
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Post by Colin on Jul 11, 2006 21:58:16 GMT
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Post by mowat on Jul 21, 2006 12:59:58 GMT
Going slightly off topic, wasnt there a collision involving 38ts at Neasden? Early 80s I think? The driver was killed. I cant remember the exact circumstances. There's somthing about it on the Undergound Trains Remembered video, it was the first Bakerloo line train of the day and it crashed into a battery loco that was left standing in the platform! The driver was killed, and they had to get the old steam crane out to lift the front end of the battery loco which had fallen off and move it away. Has anyone got more info on how it happened? |
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 21, 2006 15:43:20 GMT
IIRC it was fog and misinterpretation of the rule book. Cant remember if it was a failed auto signal or if the driver applied the approprialte rule on his own authority.
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Post by DWS on Jul 21, 2006 17:25:12 GMT
Going slightly off topic, wasnt there a collision involving 38ts at Neasden? Early 80s I think? The driver was killed. I cant remember the exact circumstances. There's somthing about it on the Undergound Trains Remembered video, it was the first Bakerloo line train of the day and it crashed into a battery loco that was left standing in the platform! The driver was killed, and they had to get the old steam crane out to lift the front end of the battery loco which had fallen off and move it away. Has anyone got more info on how it happened? It was a ballast train which ran into the 1938 Stock Bakerloo line train. The Bakerloo line train was in the northbound platform at Neasden, the ballast train was travelling down the hill from Dollis Hill station. The ballast train had only one battery loco, it passed the Neasden home signal at danger and ran into the back of the Bakerloo Line train. |
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Post by rob66 on Jul 21, 2006 20:17:40 GMT
I'm sure I've got this on video tape.
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Post by tubeprune on Aug 9, 2006 8:46:08 GMT
There's somthing about it on the Undergound Trains Remembered video, it was the first Bakerloo line train of the day and it crashed into a battery loco that was left standing in the platform! The driver was killed, and they had to get the old steam crane out to lift the front end of the battery loco which had fallen off and move it away. Has anyone got more info on how it happened? It was a ballast train which ran into the 1938 Stock Bakerloo line train. The Bakerloo line train was in the northbound platform at Neasden, the ballast train was travelling down the hill from Dollis Hill station. The ballast train had only one battery loco, it passed the Neasden home signal at danger and ran into the back of the Bakerloo Line train. For the record, the date of this accident was 25th September 1968. The Bakerloo had just shunted out of Neasden Depot into the NB local platform. The ballast train was being driven by a trainee (I think his name was Thompson) under the supervision of a Trainmen's Inspector (Charlie Langdale) and they weren't paying attention. The Loco was L24 and the 38TS car hit was 11134 (written off). |
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