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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 15:25:01 GMT
Why were all of the platform repeaters on the Central Line disconnected? In some of the tunnels the ceiling fixtures obscure the PTI, preventing you from seeing the "MIND THE DOORS" message. Restoring the platform repeaters (green for green/white starter, orange for red starter) would be a big help, especially for SAs at the really busy stations who can't see the PTI.
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2005 17:48:02 GMT
Platform repeaters were intended for the use of guards, as the line went OPO at the same time the platform repeaters were decommissioned. A person on SATS duty looking at the platform repeater? That will be a first.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 17:59:43 GMT
A person on SATS duty looking at the platform repeater? That will be a first. If they didnt, how would you suggest that they knew when to despatch the train? 99% of the time when the starter is still on, they wait till it goes green, i know this could catch on, but i think you will find it already has. Of course there is always one that will give you the right even thought the signal is red. But we are all Human! |
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2005 22:08:30 GMT
If they didnt, how would you suggest that they knew when to despatch the train? Err.. they don't? This will explain why the baton is raised and mind the doors announcements are made when passengers are still getting off, which has been my experience every time I've seen SATS on duty in the last few months. On the central line IIRC the 'mind the doors' message on the DMI is inhibited if the signal is still at danger. Similar arrangements apply to the stand clear of the doors messages on curved Bakerloo platforms (such as Waterloo). BTW, was the sarcasm really necessary? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 22:20:36 GMT
A person on SATS duty looking at the platform repeater? That will be a first. Yes, I'm afraid I've lost count of the times when Station Staff doing SATS has announced "Mind the Doors" and stuck their bat up when the starter is still red. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 22:26:43 GMT
Of course there is always one that will give you the right even thought the signal is red. But we are all Human! The one at Victoria doesn't know the starter is an Auto, she usually announces when the starter is on, that "This train is being regulated to even out the service", yeah right  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 22:41:08 GMT
The one at Victoria doesn't know the starter is an Auto, she usually announces when the starter is on, that "This train is being regulated to even out the service", yeah right Perhaps she used to work at Piccadilly Circus, in the days of BPZ14 and BPZ15  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2005 23:43:15 GMT
Err.. they don't? This will explain why the baton is raised and mind the doors announcements are made when passengers are still getting off, which has been my experience every time I've seen SATS on duty in the last few months. I find that sheer coinsidence that they have been failing to carry out their duties like that. From my experiences, they are normally quite good. On the central line IIRC the 'mind the doors' message on the DMI is inhibited if the signal is still at danger. Similar arrangements apply to the stand clear of the doors messages on curved Bakerloo platforms (such as Waterloo). The Mind the Doors is triggers when the count down to departure visual in the cabs, reach 0 seconds. If the signal remains on, the count down does not count down, and therefore the Mind the Doors does not flash up. BTW, was the sarcasm really necessary? |
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Post by Colin on Mar 15, 2005 1:28:14 GMT
Of course the easy answer is the Central's an automatic line with very few station starting signals so it would be difficult to repeat a signal if it's not there!
Also, deaf people excepted, the bleepy noise tells you that the doors are closing.
Just for the record SATS with BATS do not and never have had the responsbillity for dispatching a train from a platform. They are merely there to inform the driver that, should they want to depart, it is safe to do so, as they are present and monitoring the platform. Ultimately the safe departure of a train can only rest with one individual - the driver. There is no exception to this.
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Post by Tom on Mar 15, 2005 12:45:29 GMT
Starters are one of the few places where signals have been provided.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2005 17:18:29 GMT
Just for the record SATS with BATS do not and never have had the responsbillity for dispatching a train from a platform. They are merely there to inform the driver that, should they want to depart, it is safe to do so, as they are present and monitoring the platform. Ultimately the safe departure of a train can only rest with one individual - the driver. There is no exception to this. When i said despatching, i didn mean giving the right, got my words mixed up! As you say, Ultimately the safe departure of a train can only rest with one individual - the driver. |
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