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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2006 14:15:22 GMT
Do drivers normally release the deadman when standing at stations??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2006 14:35:55 GMT
Do drivers normally release the deadman when standing at stations?? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2006 14:53:55 GMT
As long as the deadman is in Rheo1 & Hold (C stock) or Service 1 (D stock) the deadman can be released. All drivers do, to give their hand a rest, and to make it easier to use the door controls.
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Post by setttt on Jan 8, 2006 15:03:26 GMT
As long as the deadman is in Rheo1 & Hold (C stock) or Service 1 (D stock) the deadman can be released. Just to add... If the driver of an 'A' stock wants to release the deadman, he must place the reverser in the 'Off' position before letting go of the controller.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2006 22:38:20 GMT
Just to add... If the driver of an 'A' stock wants to release the deadman, he must place the reverser in the 'Off' position before letting go of the controller. 'Cos if you don't..... psssssshhhhh!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2006 10:36:37 GMT
Do drivers normally release the deadman when standing at stations?? Most of the time you do, sometimes you dont, depends how you feel!
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Post by oliver on Jan 9, 2006 18:30:40 GMT
Is there a deadman on the Central (in ATO mode) or will the train just drive itself to the next station as normal if the driver jumps out ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2006 18:37:36 GMT
Is there a deadman on the Central (in ATO mode) or will the train just drive itself to the next station as normal if the driver jumps out ? No deadman in ATO. The cab doors are on an interlock so the train will not start with the doors open, nobody will jump out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2006 21:39:25 GMT
If you need to stop quickly on the Central, just knock the CTBC out of the stowed position while in ATO, and you get a nice emergency brake, complete with all sorts of messages on the DTS monitor...
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Post by ttran on Jan 10, 2006 1:45:16 GMT
And if that brake don't work in an emergency, you've always got the 'RLF' brake!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2006 10:37:30 GMT
As long as the deadman is in Rheo1 & Hold (C stock) or Service 1 (D stock) the deadman can be released. All drivers do, to give their hand a rest, and to make it easier to use the door controls. I thought 'Off and Release' was the holding notch on a D stock, is this just used for coasting? Also I know a lot of drivers use 'service 1' while holding 1973 stock. One thing about that is a vigilance alarm will go off (is it after one minute?) meaning the deadman has to be pushed down again for a second.
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Post by Christopher J on Jan 10, 2006 11:17:37 GMT
I thought 'Off and Release' was the holding notch on a D stock, is this just used for coasting? Off & Release is coasting. Also I know a lot of drivers use 'service 1' while holding 1973 stock. One thing about that is a vigilance alarm will go off (is it after one minute?) meaning the deadman has to be pushed down again for a second. That Alarm you hear is the OPO Alarm, I can't remember its exact use but I know it's only installed on Tube Stock, on the 73TS to acknowledge the alarm you can either hold the CTBC back down or press the 'Brake Test Enable and Radio Alarm Reset' button on the offside part of the cab.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2006 12:34:02 GMT
The OPO alarm, AFAICT, is designed to ensure that if the driver stops the train correctly, applies the brake, releases the deadman, then passes out, the Line Controller will find out about it after the alarm sounds for x number of seconds.
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Post by Colin on Jan 10, 2006 20:15:29 GMT
I thought 'Off and Release' was the holding notch on a D stock, is this just used for coasting? Off & Release is coasting. Brake Release & Motor off Is a better explanation Also I know a lot of drivers use 'service 1' while holding 1973 stock. One thing about that is a vigilance alarm will go off (is it after one minute?) meaning the deadman has to be pushed down again for a second. That Alarm you hear is the OPO Alarm, I can't remember its exact use but I know it's only installed on Tube Stock, on the 73TS to acknowledge the alarm you can either hold the CTBC back down or press the 'Brake Test Enable and Radio Alarm Reset' button on the offside part of the cab. The OPO alarm, AFAICT, is designed to ensure that if the driver stops the train correctly, applies the brake, releases the deadman, then passes out, the Line Controller will find out about it after the alarm sounds for x number of seconds. The purpose of the OPO alarm is to notify the line controller that a driver may have become unconscious, or have a similar problem. On sub surface trains, generally a driver on a train going in the opposite direction can check the condition of a colleague, hence the alarm is not required. In a single track tunnel, it's not possible to approach a train and check the condition of a driver, which is why only 'tube' trains have them fitted. The alarm will alert the line controller, who is then able to communicate with the passengers by using the trains PA system.
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Post by oliver on Jan 10, 2006 20:25:06 GMT
The alarm will alert the line controller, who is then able to communicate with the passengers by using the trains PA system. Thats a really good idea .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2006 22:45:35 GMT
That Alarm you hear is the OPO Alarm, I can't remember its exact use but I know it's only installed on Tube Stock, Its so that if the river was to pass out / die etc etc the alarm would go off, not be reset and then an alarm goes off at the Line Controllers desk which tells him there is a problem. They can then make a PA to the train to ask for a member of staff, or at least thats the idea! Its really there to stop trains being stuck in tunnels. on the 73TS to acknowledge the alarm you can either hold the CTBC back down or press the 'Brake Test Enable and Radio Alarm Reset' button on the offside part of the cab. To do that, the TBC has to be in service one position, otherwise it will not work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2006 20:47:35 GMT
The alarm will alert the line controller, who is then able to communicate with the passengers by using the trains PA system. The message comes via the train radio and the clarity leaves a lot to be desired with a bit of feedback, when it was tested on the 92 stock, IIRC .
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