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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 8:06:53 GMT
Am I mistaken or is it the job of the Station Supervisor to Lamp Out the last train of the traffic day? Yesterday, I was on the last train, and got the correct indication at each station. One in particular sticks out. I dont know what this person was told, or even if he was licenced to do such duties, or even had any knowledge of such duties. Anyway, this guy gave me the light alright! PHYSICALLY!!! No joke, this stupid fool actually gave me the light! I questioned this person, and xxx insisted that the instructions were, quite clearly, to give me the light. Err, I think whoever told xxx meant RIGHT, meaning right to proceed.
And I thought the great unwashed were difficult! Where do they get 'em? Has this occured to anyone else? I'm in the process of making out a report. Tonight, I'm thankfully on an earlier train, but on my way in, I'll return the lamp. They might need it, err, to give the last train the RIGHT!
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Post by q8 on Nov 3, 2005 8:38:00 GMT
Sounds to me as if this persons lights have gone out!!
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Post by Phil on Nov 3, 2005 11:33:29 GMT
Wonder what he'd do if he was told to make sure the stick was off!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 14:38:44 GMT
It certainly makes you wonder! I had an incident a feqw months ago on the last westbound at Victoria where the SA had obviously been told to show me a red until ready, then show me a green. As I came thundering into the platform the guy was showing me a red... Literally waving the handlamp around! Needless to say I dropped everything and came up in a heap and refused to move until he showed me a green or yellow aspect beneath the camera (to cover my rear). I think there's a lot of training needs to be done for these station staff who are obviously new and probably don't know any better. SATs are the same, they must give them the baton and not train them in its use! They try dispatching trains with punters still getting off, or with red starters etc!  |
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Post by clavman on Nov 3, 2005 15:13:23 GMT
Am I mistaken or is it the job of the Station Supervisor to Lamp Out the last train of the traffic day? Yesterday, I was on the last train, and got the correct indication at each station. One in particular sticks out. I dont know what this person was told, or even if he was licenced to do such duties, or even had any knowledge of such duties. Anyway, this guy gave me the light alright! PHYSICALLY!!! No joke, this stupid fool actually gave me the light! I questioned this person, and xxx insisted that the instructions were, quite clearly, to give me the light. Err, I think whoever told xxx meant RIGHT, meaning right to proceed. And I thought the great unwashed were difficult! Where do they get 'em? Has this occured to anyone else? I'm in the process of making out a report. Tonight, I'm thankfully on an earlier train, but on my way in, I'll return the lamp. They might need it, err, to give the last train the RIGHT! Interesting post. Where did this happen? I can well and truely believe it. |
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Post by Colin on Nov 3, 2005 21:17:59 GMT
The problem of course is in the job title of these staff - customer service assistants. That is what their training is all about, and I would agree there's nothing wrong with that. But, we run a railway - it's an environment like no other, with rules and regulations to make sure every thing is safe. But are they taught any of this? no. Customer service assistants (station assistants to the rest of us) are expected to learn their trade on the stations they work at. So now we rely on good Supervisors to make sure these clowns nice new staff know their job and remain safe. Oh well........
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2005 19:44:21 GMT
Wonder what he'd do if he was told to make sure the stick was off!! Ha! Better not tellhim that!!! He'd probably take the bulb out! |
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Post by q8 on Nov 5, 2005 20:44:35 GMT
Nah! he'll wander about the place looking for sticks to put on again!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2005 20:47:40 GMT
he'd probably get totally confuddled and put sticks ON the track!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2005 21:03:10 GMT
I think there's a lot of training needs to be done for these station staff who are obviously new and probably don't know any better. Having just done the CSA course, I have to agree with that, they hardly touched on OPT. SATs are the same, they must give them the baton and not train them in its use! They try dispatching trains with punters still getting off, or with red starters etc! We had a practise run at Charing Cross dissused and then one go on the northboubnd platform on the Northern line at Charing Cross, at one of the quietest timesof the day. Hardly Ideal. |
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Post by towerman on Nov 5, 2005 22:07:43 GMT
Train came out of service tonight with broken window,told T/Op where to stable."where's my replacement?" he asked."They're making your train up on the road" I told him."What does that mean?"he asked.Don't they teach these new guys anything now?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 13:07:53 GMT
Train came out of service tonight with broken window,told T/Op where to stable."where's my replacement?" he asked."They're making your train up on the road" I told him."What does that mean?"he asked.Don't they teach these new guys anything now? LOL, excellent, but it's very true that a lot of this type of language is simply picked up 'on the road'! For example, I'd never heard of a 'stock and crew' until I was actually required to do one! I had to ring the controller and ask what one was! (I would never use the radio to ask about such things!!) |
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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 6, 2005 14:24:11 GMT
I have made a list of the more obscure stuff that I ensure I show trainees when job or road training. Stock and crew, reforms and the like are included. If I don't no-one else will!! None of thats in the syllabus at all. I know of quite a few drivers/ guards being sent out to wait for train 89 to do a Barnet (or Wimbledon depending on line) and back! ;D I've found out after years of nagging, the railway training centre actually now show DROP's how to use duty sheets etc. It's basic but essential stuff. When job training and spare, I still set up exercises though as it's good line based experience, esp when it comes to special working.  |
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Post by towerman on Nov 6, 2005 20:59:27 GMT
Basically stock & crew is just another term for changeover.Different lines different terms.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 23:17:28 GMT
Basically stock & crew is just another term for changeover.Different lines different terms. ....and different places. Buckhurst Hill is nice at this time of year |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2005 5:43:42 GMT
[quote author=metapprentice board=general thread=1131005213 post=1131319048 ....and different places. Buckhurst Hill is nice at this time of year [/quote] Hmm, I know what you mean MA... Little darlings from the school armed with either flour or eggs... Yep, I once had to reset a PEA here, and had a lovely walk down to car 7, all the while getting the finger pointing and laughing. On my way back to the front end, I got an egg, right in the back of the head. Swines! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 15:46:25 GMT
UPDATE: Saw the person in question today after finishing my shift, I changed at the station and went for a walk, there he was on the gateline, looking as happy as anything. I guess the admonishment he received after giving me the light penetrated his grey matter!!!
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