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Post by q8 on Apr 14, 2005 21:06:26 GMT
 Just been watching "The Tube" on the satellite and saw our first woman train driver from years back (HD) Which brought on the thought as to how many women drivers there are today on the network. Come on girls let's hear from you. ;D
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Post by igelkotten on Apr 14, 2005 23:34:27 GMT
An interesting question, Q8. What proportion of LU staff is female? How big is the difference between trains and stations? Is there any female staff on the infracos and the depots -apart from cleaners and clercs, the roles women traditionally were relegated to? From Stockholm, I can report that we had our first female tube train driver back in 1956. At that time, there were several female guards, both on trams and tubes, as well as a (very) few tram drivers IIRC, all sort of "leftover after the war", when female staff was used extensively. Today, about 30% of the Stockholm tube operations staff is female. There are slightly more women on the stations side. We have had equal salary for equal work since the beginning of the tube in 1950. We have women working in every possible position on the operations side -station attendants, security guards, revenue inspectors, conductors, drivers, line controllers and line supervisors. Things are a bit different on the infrastructure side, with female loco drivers being very recently introduced (1990:ies). This has, however, much to do with the fact that they have had a hiring stop for a long, long time. Before the loco drivers, we did have a few female staff on the infrastructure operations side -a tamping machine operator, for example, and several engineers and supervisors. In the depots, women are also rarer, but they are there. There are several female depot maintenance workers, shunters and other grades. Of course, moving up into the higher management, you can see some evidence of the Old Boys networks in operation, with a far lower percentage of females in upper management, and then predomninantly in Human Resources etc. But I must say that at least on the daily operations level, things are reasonably good, and what generally counts is your ability to do the job -not whether you have dangly bits between your legs or not.  /Igelkotten |
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Post by Alexh on Apr 15, 2005 5:30:30 GMT
I saw exactly the same episode and could not help feeling sorry for the lady training to be a SA as she was about to step over live rails for the first time - she looked terrified (mind you I think I would)!
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Post by piccadillypilot on Apr 15, 2005 8:07:37 GMT
(mind you I think I would) I'm curious as to why. After all the only way you'll get a belt is if you touch it whilst uninsulated. Treated with appropriate respect it won't hurt you. Mess with it and that's a different matter. |
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Post by citysig on Apr 15, 2005 11:50:12 GMT
Not as dangerous as crossing an ordinary road late at night wearing dark coloured clothing. Actually, it's not even close to crossing a road in broad daylight with flourescent clothing on.
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Post by Dmitri on Apr 15, 2005 12:38:26 GMT
Not as dangerous as crossing an ordinary road late at night wearing dark coloured clothing. Actually, it's not even close to crossing a road in broad daylight with flourescent clothing on. As a someone who has to use an uncontrolled pedestrian crossing every day I tend to agree with you... |
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Post by chris on Apr 17, 2005 11:11:01 GMT
How many women are on this forum?
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Post by Admin Team on Apr 19, 2005 15:14:13 GMT
How many women are on this forum? Looking through the membership list it appears we have no female members on it, though from experience with other such places this isn't unusual. I would like some ladies about the place, so as to get a 'balanced' view, so come on girls, if there are any of you who read this, do join in. On the more general point of the number of female staff LU has... On the Stations side I'd guess (and this is purely from observation) about 25% are female. Traincrew-wise I'd reckon this now at about 10%. Anyone have any accurate figures? |
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Post by citysig on Apr 19, 2005 18:34:34 GMT
Not accurate, but signalling side on the Met:
Baker Street - 5%
Signal Operators "outside" - 12-15%
and growing - though not fast. Many of those outside are looking for jobs at Baker Street so the figure will probably shift rather than increase. It will help if they can make tea (now if that doesn't get any silent female watchers of this forum posting, not much else will, and never let it be said I'm not brave or stupid or both ;D)
The view expressed above is that of myself the poster and not necessarily that of the forum, and it was not intended to be in any way a chauvinistic comment, but was intended to point out that we consume quite a fair amount of tea. The personal consumption of tea will not affect your suitability for any vacancy that arises. Thank you.
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Post by chris on Apr 19, 2005 20:31:58 GMT
The personal consumption of tea will not affect your suitability for any vacancy that arises. Thank you. However, if the tea consumed is not Yorkshire Tea, I believe you are not suitible for any job. It proves you settle for way below a decent standard of tea and therefore implies you may go about your work in a below decent way. Drink Yorkshire Tea and you're a true English person, worthy of any job. |
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Post by DWS on Apr 19, 2005 20:41:22 GMT
However, if the tea consumed is not Yorkshire Tea, I believe you are not suitible for any job. It proves you settle for way below a decent standard of tea and therefore implies you may go about your work in a below decent way. Drink Yorkshire Tea and you're a true English person, worthy of any job. Since when did tea grow in Yorkshire ;D |
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Post by chris on Apr 19, 2005 20:54:55 GMT
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Post by citysig on Apr 20, 2005 8:26:12 GMT
Since when did tea grow in Yorkshire ;D If I had a pound for every time someone at work has asked me that, then I wouldn't be working anymore. Many manufacturers don't actually grow/make the product they sell. They take the raw material, and with careful (or with some of them, less careful) they blend it into something worth having. Taylors of Harrogate are professionals at this kind of thing when it comes to tea. They don't add the floor sweepings found in some of their nearest rivals tea. (Mr T of H - I hope this hurries the cheque up now!) |
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Post by chris on Apr 20, 2005 14:42:35 GMT
Yorkshire Tea Gold uses tea from over 20 different tea gardens.
I suppose we should be thankful some companies do not make their own raw materials. I don't think Cadburys would be the same if cocoa beans were grew in Birmingham!
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